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Old 10-03-07, 06:50 PM
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does anyone know where i can get xenon look alike bulbs for my interior. I have a 02 deville dts and the stock yellow interior lights look bad and dont light up much of anything. I want the intrior to look alot brighter. lIke newer interior cadis. Thanks
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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

You can try LED's. Xenon or halogen runs far too hot for the interior lenses.
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Old 10-03-07, 08:11 PM
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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

sounds good but where can i find them? website, numbers, etc...
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Old 10-08-07, 05:32 PM
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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

mrgoodbar67 this is exactly what you need:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/50p-4...QQcmdZViewItem
I did-it on my car (still not finished yet). But before consider that you have to replace at LEAST 50 light bulbs (not to mention that you need resistors to limit the current, LED's are not a simple plug and play thing).
But the result is fantastic!
When I’ll be done I will post a thread.
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Old 10-08-07, 06:03 PM
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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

Finally. Thanks N*caddy. Please Let Me Know How It All Goes
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Old 10-11-07, 12:46 AM
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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

What Exactly Does The Replacement Require Me To Doe To Install The Leds?
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Old 10-15-07, 01:48 AM
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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

Yes, you will need to replace all the small light bulbs from the dashboard, doors, map, visors and under dash lights with LED's. BUT IS NOT A PLUG AND PLAY THING. Every single LED needs an appropriate size resistor to limit the current.
- You will have to remove the stereo and climate control module and replace about 15 light bulbs (from each) plus some 3-7 resistors (this require allot of desoldering/soldering). I will post the schematics with which one and what values when I will have some time.
- The PRND123 back light from the shifter is done by two light bulbs witch can be replaced with 4 LED's (plus 2 resistors, don't forget about resistors) mounted on a small piece of PCB that will fit in the outlets (pretty time consuming job).
- The heated seats buttons need to be taken apart to replace the light bulb inside (each button) with one LED and (+ resistor).
- The Info/Trip reset/trunk/Gas door release/Info reset buttons are illuminated by 3 socket-mounted light bulbs. They can be replaced by fitting the LED in the socket and the resistor on the back of the socket.
- Map lights (the lights above the doors) are using 168/194 light bulbs (same as the one for the license plate). They can be founded already made on e-bay or can be made using a small peace of PCB and 6 LED's (+ the resistor). Again this require EXTREME soldering.
- Door lights (the one above the window switches) are using same idea of socket-mounted light bulbs as the Info module (same solution, LED in the socket and resistor in the back).
This is what I got so far. I still need to replace the Instrument Cluster lights (which is pretty much the most important); the headlight switch light, rear climate control light, glove box light and under dash lights.
Maybe somebody can help me with some points how to access the instrument cluster lights (I haven’t got a chance to look in to it, I hope is possible to reach from under the dash without removing the instrument cluster).
One more thing, LED’s are basically diodes so the polarity is important.
Well is a heck of a job, I am working in every weekend since 3 weeks ago and I still need at least two more, but the result IS FANTASTIC. Not to mention that one LED is using about 3-4 time less power (makes the battery happier)

When I’ll be done I will post pictures, and details with what and where.

Until then, here is a picture (after doing the stereo and climate control module). Notice the color difference between stereo/climate control module and the buttons on top of the stereo or the passenger side under dash light.

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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

Wow it is a huge difference! My 02 cadi already has those bright white lights ( or something similar) from stock in behind the DIC and the dash cluster, so that does not need to be done. Though i would like to replace the ac lights, window control, heat control lights from front and rear. However, All i am really interested in are the 2 front map lights, 4 footwell lights (front and rear), 2 rear reading lights, back up lights and license plate lights, etc...It all sounds like a great time consuming project but the results will be Awesome huh?. Good luck with all that. Please do post pictures to help me decide if i should try to tackle the monster myself.
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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

Here is what a 2002 DTS is using:

1) Map light: 578 light bulbs (on E-bay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-5...spagenameZWDVW). I don’t really like that blue but you can ask if they have white. Also you have the pictures so is not a big deal to make the light bulbs yourself using the metal ends from your existing bulbs, one PCB and some 3 mm white LED’s plus a 110 ohms, 250 mW resistor.
2) Step/Courtesy light: 168 light bulbs (on E-bay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-WHI...QQcmdZViewItem. This is what I would recommend you, but before check that you have enough space because they are a little bit bigger than the standard 168 light bulbs).
Also you will need for the Step/Courtesy lights 214-2 light bulbs. Here is what I recommend you: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-W...QQcmdZViewItem. Again check for spacing, they are also bigger that the standard 214 –2 light bulb.
3) Back up lights: 3157 LL Light Bulbs (on E-bay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-HID...QQcmdZViewItem).
As for the license plate I don’t know what is used in DTS. On Seville are used 168 (I know because I did it on mine and this is exactly what I used, you have already the link)
I don’t have pictures at this moment with the license plate lights (I can take some tomorrow) but trust me is looking excellent. DTS’s having the LED assembly taillights should naturally have LED’s for license plate (can’t understand why GM didn’t do it to begin with).
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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

I want to do this too, but now it just seems like too much work. >.< can't I just do like the lights on the ceiling and the headlights?
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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

Wow good work N*Caddy but i had a question for you??If i only wanted to change my interior reading lamps and my reverse lights will i still need to add resistors to the line.
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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

hay northstar,
any pictures of the finished project.
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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

Hello,
Sorry for the delay, about the resistors, you only need to add resistors – so called dummy load (parallel connection) for the direction light bulbs (to fool the flasher), for the rest of the lights you will only need the serial resistor to limit the current to the LED's typical value (yeah…you need basically to add resistors regardless, just the reason is different). If you buy the light bulb replacement LED assembly, will come with the proper resistor (the current limiting one) so you only need to add the dummy load to fool the flasher (or change the flasher).
As for pictures, I posted one earlier on this thread, but the project is not finished yet, I still have the instrument cluster lights (now up here in Canada is winter …brrr… not so pleasant to work on the car).
By the way anybody knows how to remove the instrument cluster (92-97 STS)?
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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

pull the dash pad

this is done by removing the screws behind the vents and 3 dash screws through the defroster
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Re: I want White light/ xenon Interior.

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Hello,
Sorry for the delay, about the resistors, you only need to add resistors – so called dummy load (parallel connection) for the direction light bulbs (to fool the flasher), for the rest of the lights you will only need the serial resistor to limit the current to the LED's typical value (yeah…you need basically to add resistors regardless, just the reason is different). If you buy the light bulb replacement LED assembly, will come with the proper resistor (the current limiting one) so you only need to add the dummy load to fool the flasher (or change the flasher).
As for pictures, I posted one earlier on this thread, but the project is not finished yet, I still have the instrument cluster lights (now up here in Canada is winter …brrr… not so pleasant to work on the car).
By the way anybody knows how to remove the instrument cluster (92-97 STS)?
so your saying if i want to replace my liscene plate lights i just need to order replacement led setups ? and dont need any resistors ??
i want my plate lights to match the new lesus IS cars the real white light not yellow tint ones
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