V2 Wheel Clicking - Page 4

dmr_in_il · #46 (**permalink**) 09-20-09, 11:56 PM

I just had mine in for this early this week. They replaced the lower intermediate steering shaft, cleaned the rotors and re torqued the wheels. The noise is gone and everything feels good.

I mention this because this is the first I've heard about replacing the lower intermediate steering shaft. I'll let everyone know how it works out, as I'm leaving on an almost 2,000 mile road trip Wednesday morning.

Doug

SlvrBullIT · #47 (**permalink**) 09-21-09, 12:17 AM

Good post dmr in il, will have to go look at mine. Heard a pop in mine as I was turning left to the drive through... mucho concerned now...

RapidRob · #48 (**permalink**) 09-22-09, 12:01 AM

^^^ Yes indeed - good info., (possibly .. )! I used to chime-in on some of these, 'wheel-clicking', threads when I first received my v2, smugly announcing that I didn't have the problem. Well, guess what? At about 3000 miles now, I do indeed, have the problem.

Sooo - next trip to dealer it will be brought to their attention just for the record, and the above info. as well.

Thanks for the information!

Rob

Gary Wells · #49 (**permalink**) 09-22-09, 01:51 PM

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...ee-urgent.html (2009 powertrain warranty better.. See urgent message from gm)

Am I reading this correctly, under item # 6 (eliminated), did GM just resolve their problems regarding the front wheel bearing issue?
I sort of glad that I bought a '09 and did not order a '10 now. More eliminations than additions.

ewill3rd · #50 (**permalink**) 09-22-09, 02:02 PM

The hub/bearing/wheel speed sensor is serviced as an assembly.
They cannot be "inspected" and are serviced only by complete replacement.

Gary Wells · #51 (**permalink**) 09-22-09, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewill3rd

The hub/bearing/wheel speed sensor is serviced as an assembly.
They cannot be "inspected" and are serviced only by complete replacement.

Sorry, very bad attempt at communication on my part. Basically, so if anything goes wrong with any of the three components regardless of the other 2 then the whole unit requires replacement. I am having a very hard time seeing GM live up to their warranty claims on this issue if they have to replace a complete hub/bearing/wheel speed sensor unit when only the bearing goes bad. No wonder it is taking them so long to come up with a resolution for the front wheel clicking issue. I hate to ask stupid questions, but just how much is that unit? And worst case scenario, if one of my wheel bearings goes out, I have no guarantee that the replacement unit that I am buying will last any longer than the previous one. I am not trying to be pessimistic about this issue, but this doesn't sound good for the consumer that has a '09 or a '10 CTS-V. Any ideas?

another_lap · #52 (**permalink**) 09-27-09, 12:33 PM

Anyone have any noteworthy developments regarding this problem? Taking mine in again tomorrow for this...

CTS-V-TWIN · #53 (**permalink**) 09-27-09, 01:35 PM

I am taking mine back in yet again tomorrow, Monday morning (Sept 28) as the dealer has ordered the necessary parts they feel will fix the problem. GM field engineers will be at the dealer to inspect my car.

I have a little over 8,200 miles on my V.

I will update everyone as soon as I get my car back and see if they have found the problem, but I can guarantee everyone that this is just a waste of time. I don't think they know what they are doing and just want to try replacing parts. After a 1,000-1,500 miles, the problem always comes back on my car. Never fails.

SG

Gary Wells · #54 (**permalink**) 09-27-09, 01:53 PM

AERO1, even if what they find and do works on your car permanently, can't you just see the GM engineering staff flying around the country to fix all of the cars that have this problem. Please post up with the results, good, bad, or ugly as I think that a lot of peeps are closely following this thread. I indeed am.

tedcmiller · #55 (**permalink**) 09-27-09, 02:08 PM

As I indicated in my previous post to this thread, I have the wheel clicking issue but do not consider it to be a particularly pressing problem. However, I would like to know when and if the problem and/or parts that cause this are definitely identified. If this actually happens, it is unlikely that the GM engineering staff will go anywhere, and it is further unlikely that anyone will be notified through a recall notice since recalls are done only for safety issues, which this problem does not seem to be.

If the issue turns out to be a part, I am sure that part will be modified to eliminate the clicking and made available to those who ask for it. However, only those who have the issue and take their car to the dealer, or read "clicking" threads on this forum, will be aware of it.

Gary Wells · #56 (**permalink**) 09-27-09, 02:24 PM

Sorry for any confusion that my post may have caused, but the part about GM engineers flying all over the country to fix this problem, that was a joke.

CTS-V-TWIN · #57 (**permalink**) 09-28-09, 08:08 PM

Dropped my car off this morning at my dealer and my service advisor just called to inform me that my car hasn't been touched because they were instructed not to do any work on the car by the GM field engineers. They want to be the ones to inspect the car firsthand and they won't be able to come out until tomorrow. So, dropping off the car today was a complete waste of time.

I just wanted to give everyone an update though.

SG

edsuski · #58 (**permalink**) 10-02-09, 12:29 AM

Aero1

Any update?

CTS-V-TWIN · #59 (**permalink**) 10-02-09, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edsuski

Aero1

Any update?

No update as of yet. GM field engineers inspected the car on Tuesday and verified the car still has the problem. They replaced the rotor/hub assemblies and had the tech at the dealer put teflon coating on the inside of the front wheels where it mounts against the rotors.

My service advisor and I feel that their fix will NOT fix the problem at all because all they did was replace my rotors with the same design factory rotor assemblies. They replaced my factory painted wheels with factory polished wheels and the problem still came back, so it looks like GM is just throwing parts at the problem instead of doing some R&D to really find the root of the problem.

Right now, my car is sitting on a lift waiting for new V-spec front lugnuts. GM field engineers instructed the dealership to wait for new lugnuts which have to come from the manufacturer of the lugnuts. The field engineers feel that the car needs new lugnuts because they have been torqued on and off the car too many times. Who knows how long it will take to get the new lugnuts, because they are not coming from GM. They are coming from the manufacturer of the lugnuts!

I am getting really fed up with all this crap. Pay this much for a car and have this many damn problems. I am really seriously considering contacting a lemon law attorney and/or the Better Business Bureau Autoline. This time around the dealer has had my car for at least 5 days and that doesn't include all the other times the dealer had my car. This has to qualify as a lemon considering how many times the car has gone in for the same damn problem. I have given the dealer and GM a "reasonable" amount of attempts to resolve the problem, which is a problem that GM doesn't have a fix for.

I will continue to update you guys, but I know the problem will be back after a few hundred miles.

SG

anonfrank · #60 (**permalink**) 10-02-09, 06:45 AM

It sounds like they are going through process of elimination. Not the wheels, not the lugs, now we'll see it's not the rotors. How about bearings? Who knows where this will go. I can't believe this problem wasn't obvious on pre-production models, it's such an obvious one.