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Old 05-19-09, 05:44 PM
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On both turbo cars i own/owned (porsche 996tt/300zxtt), if i don't warm up the engine, it simply doesn't run very smooth. I will notice vibrations in the clutch and shifter. And then the vibrations won't go away until the car is cooled down and then properly warmed up. My guess is the heat isn't properly distributed and the ecu is miscalibrated. So far the caddy has been smooth, i always warm it up, and i have to drive at least 5 minutes from home before I get to a point where I can stomp on it.

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I have yet to drive my car from a cold start with less than 3 minutes warm up, typically closer to 5. Even after that I won't get on the car for another full 5 minutes of driving or so. The cool thing is that this motor does come up to temp pretty quick. If it isn't a cold start I still let it sit for 30 seconds to let the oil get out of the pan and circulating.

I never turn the car off directly after a hard run, I will let it sit for a full two minutes to cool down and 15-20 seconds if I've been casually driving.

It might be over kill but it is cheap insurance IMHO.
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Most recommendations are for gentle driving when cold, not idling. The oil pressure is pretty low at idle, and might not circulate that well when cold, though synthetic oil should be better in this regard. It's too bad there is no oil temperature gauge. It takes a lot longer to warm the oil up than the cooling system, and one shouldn't really get on it until the oil is warm. My M5 and all of my Porsches have oil temp gauges, and they are really useful.
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Most recommendations are for gentle driving when cold, not idling. The oil pressure is pretty low at idle, and might not circulate that well when cold, though synthetic oil should be better in this regard. It's too bad there is no oil temperature gauge. It takes a lot longer to warm the oil up than the cooling system, and one shouldn't really get on it until the oil is warm. My M5 and all of my Porsches have oil temp gauges, and they are really useful.
Huh? The V2 doesn't have an oil temp gauge? That is odd. Have you flipped through the DIC?
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Re: Break in Oil

No oil temp gauge. Oil pressure gauge has been moved there. Voltmeter is there. There is supposed to be a transmission temperature gauge, but my car doesn't have one, perhaps because it's a manual. The G meter is there too.
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I think the oil temp in on the front guage panel....but no, us manuals dont have a temp guage for the tranny. You dont need to worry about tranny temps in manuals
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There was an Oil temp guage and Transmission temp guage on my '05 V. Those are a couple of the guages that I miss on my '09.
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Huh? The V2 doesn't have an oil temp gauge? That is odd. Have you flipped through the DIC?

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if you are interested in the transmission oil temp.

look in the owners manual, damn thing has all you need to know.

might even if anyone looked at owners manual to show where other things are, but that may involve looking at manual....

Always wondered why GM has those things...

for a fee I will transcribe on thumb drive, and make a reading book for the unwashed.

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I think the oil temp in on the front guage panel....
That's a coolant temp guage.
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Huh? The V2 doesn't have an oil temp gauge? That is odd. Have you flipped through the DIC?
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if you are interested in the transmission oil temp.

look in the owners manual, damn thing has all you need to know.

might even if anyone looked at owners manual to show where other things are, but that may involve looking at manual....

Always wondered why GM has those things...

for a fee I will transcribe on thumb drive, and make a reading book for the unwashed.
Seriously, who is this guy? I want to know.

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if you are interested in the transmission oil temp.

look in the owners manual, damn thing has all you need to know.

might even if anyone looked at owners manual to show where other things are, but that may involve looking at manual....

Always wondered why GM has those things...

for a fee I will transcribe on thumb drive, and make a reading book for the unwashed.
Yes it says there is one but there isn't a transmission oil temp guage for the Manual cars!
It also says that our cars should have a coolant temp display in the DIC (yes I know we have the analogue guage for that) but it is missing as well!
The manual also states that "to avoid setting off the alarm by accident, always unlock a door with the transmitter. Unlocking a door any other way will set off the alarm."
This is false, as you can use the key in the key cylinder of the driver door to disarm the alarm (while not having the remote Keyless transmitter within range).
Yes, reading the manual is important, but verifiying the info is far more important!
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Re: Break in Oil

Grasshopper,I have auto, so what others have, they need to read the V manual and see, what is there for their V . Reading I am told is fundamental, but some seem to avoid this obvious and rich source of V information. So, Grasshopper, the pebble is still here.

Read lean, revisit the V manual, and many may graduate to the level of owner 3rd degree.
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Grasshopper,I have auto, so what others have, they need to read the V manual and see, what is there for their V . Reading I am told is fundamental, but some seem to avoid this obvious and rich source of V information. So, Grasshopper, the pebble is still here.

Read lean, revisit the V manual, and many may graduate to the level of owner 3rd degree.
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Tell you what.. it's clear that you can read, however, comprehension just doesn't seem to be your thing. The V manual is the same manual for both Auto and Manual.
Forums such as this are for people with like interests (ie. the CTS-V) gathering in a common area to share information and learn from one another as well as help each other out. It's clear that that is what most people here are trying to do.. what's unclear is why most of your posts provide very little (if any) helpful value to the topics at hand.
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Re: Break in Oil

I always read the manual when I get a new car. The manual states there is a transmission temp gauge, but my car has none in any menu that I can access. The manual makes no mention of the transmission choice in that section. It is good to know that other MT cars lack that gauge as well. There is no oil temp gauge anywhere, and apparently no oil level indicator or low oil level warning, which is really kind of chintzy ( this technology is old and quite mature). The G meter section says very little about this gauge, too, including how to reset it, or whether it records when the gauge isn't displayed (it does, BTW).

The owner's manual is shared with the base CTS, and as such can be very confusing and inaccurate at times. Plus, it's a revision of the '08 manual, so some features listed are no longer available, or one section says yes and another says no. The manual is also extremely thick and redundant at times, yet lacking things like shift points, tire pressures, and other important specs. While large, it's not a great document.
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Re: Break in Oil

Manual says there is a backup mirror setting for the driver and passenger side mirror pivot down on reverse, I don't see that on my V...so some people are missing features.... probably because they didn't pay MSRP....lol just kidding </sarcasm>
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