A.R. Headers Pics And Dyno Results!!! - Page 3

REDIMIX · #31 (**permalink**) 03-12-09, 09:37 PM

My car has an automatic and this will be the test mule because i beat the shit out of my car's. I'll keep you posted.

NormV · #32 (**permalink**) 03-13-09, 06:53 AM

Right on! Where's heavyc when you need him? Looking Camaros now...

Norm

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Originally Posted by Richie18

It's all about torque, not HP.

Mikels · #33 (**permalink**) 03-13-09, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Am. Racing Headers

RapidRod, What you think are secondary cats are actually resonators.
Nick

They are, in fact, catalysts. CTSV uses a 4 cat system. I'll let you decide what CARB and EPA think of eliminating them.

Am. Racing Headers · #34 (**permalink**) 03-13-09, 12:42 PM

Mike, They are called bottle resonators, at least that's what the engineer that designed the system calls them. Believe it or not I just got off the phone with him. The V only has 2 cats.

wait4me · #35 (**permalink**) 03-13-09, 01:58 PM

Am racing is correct. They are a low restriction bottle resonator set. The same as used on the 2009 dodge challenger to increase throaty ness with the stock pos exhaust.

NormV · #36 (**permalink**) 03-13-09, 02:13 PM

This wasn't discussed at you SAE convention?!

Norm

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Originally Posted by Mikels

They are, in fact, catalysts. CTSV uses a 4 cat system. I'll let you decide what CARB and EPA think of eliminating them.

Mikels · #37 (**permalink**) 03-13-09, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Am. Racing Headers

Mike, They are called bottle resonators, at least that's what the engineer that designed the system calls them. Believe it or not I just got off the phone with him. The V only has 2 cats.

I am telling you this as a favor - the V is a 4 cat system (trust me on this) and you are advertising an emission control defeat system for sale - you don't want to go there. (remember what happened to O2 simulators?)

Partial volume monitoring utilizes multiple catalysts - CTSV does it with 2 catalysts per bank. Some Ford products do it with 2 bricks in same housing (2nd O2 sensor in middle of cat housing).

Just because it is not monitored does not mean it is not a catalyst.

They were not added for sound or anything else - they are there as part of emission control system for the V

Am. Racing Headers · #38 (**permalink**) 03-13-09, 07:26 PM

Mike, I appreciate the heads up. We create these systems to serve one purpose, eliminate the stifling stranglehold the manufacturers are forced to place on these otherwise amazing engines. The factory system is one of the worst we've seen on any domestic. If these engines weren't supercharged I'm convinced they'd be down 50 hp because of this exhaust system. Our systems clearly are not for everyone. We make no claim that they meet .gov requirements even though they come equipped with all the necessary emissions fittings and cats. Those that wish to take their HP and TQ to a whole new level are free to do so by adding our system.

Nick

haterinc · #39 (**permalink**) 03-13-09, 08:51 PM

Vroooom vroooom F the rules. Restrictions are good in volume for the masses but for the enthusiast? Look the other way lol

NormV · #40 (**permalink**) 03-13-09, 09:04 PM

Quick switch of hats from Mr. SAE to Mr. EPA! Gentlemen, he has them all including Mr. OEM!

Norm

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Originally Posted by Mikels

I am telling you this as a favor - the V is a 4 cat system (trust me on this) and you are advertising an emission control defeat system for sale - you don't want to go there. (remember what happened to O2 simulators?)

Partial volume monitoring utilizes multiple catalysts - CTSV does it with 2 catalysts per bank. Some Ford products do it with 2 bricks in same housing (2nd O2 sensor in middle of cat housing).

Just because it is not monitored does not mean it is not a catalyst.

They were not added for sound or anything else - they are there as part of emission control system for the V

Luna. · #41 (**permalink**) 03-13-09, 09:36 PM

Nick,

I understand the smog issue and I can deal with that. But I don't want any code errors popping up like mad. Do you see any issues there?

RapidRob · #42 (**permalink**) 03-13-09, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Luna.

Nick,

I understand the smog issue and I can deal with that. But I don't want any code errors popping up like mad. Do you see any issues there?

And/or emission testing issues. I'm all for free flowing exhausts as well, but if I get hassled/fined each time the testers in my state stick their thingy, (sniffers), up my tail pipes,

, and it fails the test when it's time to renew lic. tabs, that will get old real fast.

Rob

undertaker · #43 (**permalink**) 03-13-09, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Luna.

Nick,

I understand the smog issue and I can deal with that. But I don't want any code errors popping up like mad. Do you see any issues there?

realistically anything can be bypassed with a tune....

and in general, I'm glad you guys are impressed, Nick makes great stuff, luckily for me he's local, when I feel the need I drive over have lunch at the shop and leave a few dollars lighter with some nice stainless steel in the back of the suburban for my latest project

Am. Racing Headers · #44 (**permalink**) 03-14-09, 12:33 AM

Luna, Engine lights are a non issue with a good tune which we highly recommend with every header install.

Undertaker, Thanks for representing. Stop by when you have some time.

Nick

Luna. · #45 (**permalink**) 03-14-09, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Am. Racing Headers

Luna, Engine lights are a non issue with a good tune which we highly recommend with every header install.

Undertaker, Thanks for representing. Stop by when you have some time.

Nick

Re-tuning it after the header install is a given...

Now I just need to contemplate the loss in boost due to the headers, increasing the boost with a pulley, and it's impact on the stock pistons. My gut reaction is that they would be fine, as they shouldn't have any additional cylinder pressure, but I'm also tempted to just install forged pistons to be safe.