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01-30-09, 06:49 PM
|  | AKA ~ Craig Cadillac(s): NONE | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern California | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune Quote:
Originally Posted by urbanski posted chart says flywheel hp  | You're right, it sure does... The power was measured at the rear wheels though. We've never pulled a motor to dyno it from the flywheel. Thank you. | 
01-30-09, 06:49 PM
|  | <10 poasts, CF newbie Cadillac(s): 2007 CTS-V Thunder Gray w/ Lt Gray interior | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sunny CA. Age: 43 | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune I got a dyno plot when I meet D3. Anyone want to guess which mods I had at the time? 
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01-30-09, 06:49 PM
|  | <10 poasts, CF newbie Cadillac(s): 2007 CTS-V Thunder Gray w/ Lt Gray interior | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sunny CA. Age: 43 | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune Strange the way they do it, it's "calculated" Flywheel HP. | 
01-30-09, 06:58 PM
| | Tuning, Racing, Makin parts for Caddys. Cadillac(s): 2009 v, 2005 v, SRX, STS v, GTM supercar with Cad parts. | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: warsaw indiana | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune Yes it is calculated flywheel hp. Not rear wheel hp. that is why the numbers are different.
Also if you look on Robs dyno, The correct rear end ratio of his car is in the box of 3.73 so his numbers are more accurate at the motor.
On the 09 dyno pull, the ratio shows at 4.90 which changes alot of calculations in the software. There is a setup you can do in the software to allow it to "find" the right gear if you dont know what it is on the setup menu. Here is a screen shot of the correct screen.  | 
01-30-09, 08:45 PM
| | BLING IS AMERICAN RICE Cadillac(s): '04 CTS-V | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Just North of Titletown... | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune My brain will now esplode!
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01-31-09, 07:57 AM
| | my name is Tiffany Cadillac(s): 05 CTS-V | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San 'tone, TX | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune Quote:
Originally Posted by CTSV_Rob I got a dyno plot when I meet D3. Anyone want to guess which mods I had at the time?  | none. you had 400 flywheel hp like a V1 should | 
01-31-09, 12:22 PM
| | Tuning, Racing, Makin parts for Caddys. Cadillac(s): 2009 v, 2005 v, SRX, STS v, GTM supercar with Cad parts. | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: warsaw indiana | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune I love the dynapacks, They are EXTREMELY accurate as long as all the settings are right. I even recomend that dyno or the dynodynamics to the new shops that i go to train them when they buy our software. To show REAR WHEEL horsepower all you have to do is select that in the menu. You guys can call me if you want a walk thru.
The Ratio thing is also very important in getting the correct numbers. It throws things way off. So you might have to redyno it a few times.
Just moving the fuel only to 11.8a/f gains about 10-13 hp.
That is Until you do a wide open run thru all 4 gears. Then Cat overtemp protection kicks in and dumps in alot more fuel and then your numbers drop back down to about 2hp gained...
Also, make sure you do the run in 4th gear on the auto. It is the closest to 1:1 as you can get. Even though it is 1:1.15
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01-31-09, 02:24 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Temporarily None | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bellevue, WA Age: 36 | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune I think the main point of this thread is that they eeked 37rwhp out of a quick tune alone. The type of dyno is not relavent. Nice job guys! | 
02-01-09, 02:39 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 05' CTS-V | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Age: 24 | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune | 
02-01-09, 07:04 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Cadillac | | | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune Quote:
Originally Posted by nikon | ^ now thats confusing - the auto making a genera 8hp more than the manual ?? | 
02-01-09, 07:06 PM
| | BLING IS AMERICAN RICE Cadillac(s): '04 CTS-V | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Just North of Titletown... | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune Then buy a Hyundai... | 
02-01-09, 07:23 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): Cadillac | | | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune Q. Why aren't you changing the pulleys as well as dumping more fuel?
Q. Do you remap the gearbox to hold longer to use the power/torque?
Q. Have you added a better flowing exhaust to the map?
Last Q. Who makes the ECU unit?
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02-01-09, 07:37 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Cadillac | | | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune hmmm...unless the auto was already pretty broken in with mileage and the manual was still fresh with a few miles. | 
02-01-09, 07:53 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2009 CTS-V Black/Black, manual | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Seattle area | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune Quote:
Originally Posted by Razorecko hmmm...unless the auto was already pretty broken in with mileage and the manual was still fresh with a few miles. | You may be right - otherwise, it shows the auto to be more efficient than the manual. This would be the first time I've ever heard of that being the case ..
Rob | 
02-01-09, 07:55 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Cadillac | | | | | Re: D3 CTS-V Baseline and First Tune ^ agreed Rob. That must be the answer because if the auto made more hp than it would mean that the manual would be causing more drivetrain loss which is theoretically impossible. The gearing might be better on the auto but the gearing has nothing to do with hp/tq numbers. | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | |
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