I guess there can no longer be any doubters, if this monstrous 4,300 lbs luxo barge with a super luxury interior, big trunk space, excellent rear seat accomodations, can be left in drive and run the 'ring in under 8 minutes, Cadillac has come of age in the super sedan business, especially if this sells for 60k. There is no AMG, M, or any other sedan (read 4 door luxury supercar) even remotely close. Frankly, it seemed to my that Heinricy could have been on his cell phone talking to the wife and kids while doing this.
With 100 or more less pounds, maybe even less weight with sunroof delete, we can expect the 6 speed manual to be even faster, but with the automatic killing every other competitive sedan in the market (not counting aftermarket tuners, remeber that Hennessey has confirmed a CTS-V for the future), the manual might be nothing more than an "old School" novelty, that some of us will still insist on.
I will be presentlng my deposit shortly.
The king(M5) is dead! Long Live the King(V2)!!
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Originally Posted by Cadillac Tony
I read the comments there claiming that Cadillac MUST HAVE been using slicks and a roll cage to get those times.
I tried to register an account to post up the comments from the GM Blog (disproving the theories on tires and the cage), but they require you to enter what kind of car you have. I put in "Cadillac CTS-V", and still have yet to receive an activation email.
The M5 board is full of fail already, but if they won't activate an account for someone with a Caddy then it's downright epic fail.
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From the GM Blog:
This is Kevin from Cadillac writing to provide clarification on the questions regarding the harness bar and racing seats in the 2009 CTS-V that set the new stock production sedan lap record on the Nordschleife.
This 2009 CTS-V that John Heinricy drove to set the record was an absolutely stock, right down to the production-spec Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires, 2009 CTS-V with a few minor changes to add safety that wouldn't in any way positively impact the result. As Chris already posted, the item that people see in the car and refer to as a "roll bar" or "role cage" isn't either. This is simply a harness bar that mounts to the floor and B-pillars to enable the use of a six-point racing harness for added safety. This harness bar is intentionally installed in the car so that it DOES NOT increase the torsional rigidity of the chassis or in any way change the way the chassis will function so their testing and development work will be of value for the production car.
The racing seats are installed for added safety as well and don't positively impact the performance of this production-spec CTS-V because the lighter weight of the racing seats is a little more than offset by the added weight of the steel harness bar.
In all, this production CTS-V weighs a few pounds MORE than the production car because of the weight of the harness bar and the few bits of test equipment onboard.
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4) If the car is running this stock, does this mean they are running GM fluids? Did they have to change power steering fluid, brake fluid and diff fluid to allow them to run enough laps to get their awesome time? The PS fluid from GM seems to boil at the track faster than water. I would love to see GM put in Castorl SRF brake fluid at the factory! It is expensive, but it works great.
I wonder if they're still sticking with the 5W-30 Mobil 1 which IMO has always seemed too thin, what their oil temps look like after a lap, and as for Castrol SRF - I'd rather know the brakes have enough cooling not to need it.
As for the M5 vs CTS-V - they are the same market, I'm an E39 M5 owner, have no particular interest in an E60 M5 (don't like the interior on the E60 and I'm not fond of the latest buzz-bomb M motors), the last V was a nice mechanical package but the interior and general material quality was underwhelming (and anything with that limited rear-window visibility ought to have backup sensors), this one might be tough to pass up.