I would and will within the next two years, pay 70k if that is what it takes. I drive a V1 and knowing that GM addressed all the issues the V1 has, plus 150 extra hp? Count me in.
The very fact that the Cadillac performance division is still a bit of an underdog appeals to me. I go to school on Long Island, and seriously, I don't even notice BMW, Benz or Porsche performance division cars anymore, they are everywhere. I still have only seen two other V's.
And two more things that make it worth the money to me are one) Manual Transmission. Trying getting that on an AMG or SRT-8(except Challenger supposedly). Two) Yeah an Audi RS4 or M5 might be more recognized, but they are not LSX engines. The LSX engine in all it iterations is a proven, much more readily moddable engine. I don't want to pay 8000 for headers just for the privelege of owning a Benz.
And if people know the V, they have a hell of a reaction when they see one. And if they don't....they find out..which is half the fun if you ask me
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If I could figure out a way to add 250hp, brembo brakes with 2 piece rotors, a urethane bodykit, 19" wheels, heavy duty transmission, cast iron diff, Recaro seats, suede steering wheel and shifter, magnetic ride control and PTM to a V6 CTS for $20k AND retain full factory warranty, then I would agree with the people who throw this out as a legitimate comparison.
it is still a Cadillac and doesn't carry the prestige factor of a Bimmer, Merc or even Audi, thats a marketing reality.
what!!?
yeah i always hear people say, "its the audi of all steaks"
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95% of the people who I run into don't even know what a V Cadillac is,
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The M cars, AMG and to a certain extent the Audi S and RS models have been around longer and non-enthusiasts actually recognize them, that is not the case of the V series
what??
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But you have to consider the phrase " the cadillac of whatever" originated at a time when Cadillacs were known for the qaulity of their vehicles..a quality which until recently was lacking from their production lineup. Although I don't agree I think the point was there is still a stigma that has to be overcome of Cadillacs lacking performance and handling. Not only that, but all American muscle cars have a stigma of being good for nothing but a straight line, which a lot of them are not. But the V1 and the V2 are tuned to handle at the ring and do so quite well
umm, audi is shit after a couple years.
our ML gets two thumbs down and maintenance is steep.
i dont know anything about BMWs, so i wont comment on them.
the term "it is the cadillac of ...." can still be heard today.
Yeah never said you couldnt hear the phrase today try reading the post...the point is there is a gap between the public perception of cadillac when that phrase came about and public perception now..which is the point of people who are arguing about the prestige factor of other cars compared to Cadillac.
Once again, I don't fully agree with what they are saying because I like having an uncommon car and I think it does have prestige factor both by those who recognize it and by those who don't but quickly realize there is something significant about V badging.
And I was not saying anything about Cadillac reliabilty compared to the other brands, although I have had a lot of problems with my V I still love it once again just commenting on the perception of Cadillac reliability. Most luxury brands have reliabilty issues and any performance car is going to have issues its just the way it is, if you want the power you deal with it
I cannot think of a car less reliable than my 2003.5 E55.
Problems during the first four years of ownership under 50,000 miles all fixed under warranty:
1) Transmission replaced twice
2) Radiator replaced twice
3) Supercharger pulley engagement switch replaced twice
4) A/C failed three times, the last repair taking 3 weeks requiring replacement of all lines, compressor, and evaporator
5) Front struts replaced after finding car resting on front tires sitting in my garage
But when it was running well, I loved the car and still have it. MB actually gave me a free extended warranty for all the troubles we had. Will replace it with the 2009 V. Certainly couldn't be worse.
the point is there is a gap between the public perception of cadillac when that phrase came about and public perception now.
i'm not trying to argue, but people still say it because they still believe it. The perception of cadillac is still strong among the public, if it comes up in a conversation that you have a cadillac, the reaction that you see is much much different than if you had said bmw, mercedes, or audi. The reaction shows the reality of what most people's perception of the cadillac brand is.
