
03-23-08, 10:40 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): Cadillac | | | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? And no HIDs... Why not? | 
03-24-08, 12:58 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2004 BLK Cadillac CTS-V | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: West Fort Worth, TX | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? Nav is missing mostly because the screen in the Holdens is too low for use regulations. They can do navigation from that low position in most countries, but I guess US regs require the screen closer to the top of the console and the HVAC ducts are there on the holden. So it would have taken some pretty major center stack redesign to comply with US regs for Nav. It is possible the holden hardware for the nav could be loaded with US maps and sold in aftermarket though?? Not sure how easy the install would be though?? | 
03-24-08, 12:16 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Master Cadillac(s): '05 CTS-V | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Elkridge, MD Age: 37 | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? Quote:
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Originally Posted by BowenCT I'll give credit where credit is due, but why, why, WHY can't the designers at Pontiac part themselves from the grille nostrils and hood scoops???????
Soooooooo played out! | AMEN! Quote:
Originally Posted by BowenCT I hear what you are saying, rand. One of my cars that is partially responsible for my V8 fetish was a '89 Pontiac Formula WS6, and my uncle has a '65 Goat that I lust over, so I have some Pontiac love flowing through me. But c'mon guys. I sincerely feel that the trademark "Pontiac styling" of late could hurt the sales of that car. Good looking or not.
Fortunately, I'm sure it wont be long before the Holden conversions hit the marketplace to remedy the problem. Then I'll take one in silver  . | DOUBLE AMEN!
Nothing says 'cheap pontiac' like tacked on looking air-vents and excesive body works. While the G8, may do it more modestly than in the past, Pontiac is just known for bandaiding gaudy crap onto unispiring looking cars.
Just like Cadillac made a major departure from tradition with the CTS, Pontiac needs to do the same with it's future cars.
-Chris
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03-24-08, 02:30 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Master | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Newtown, PA Age: 50 | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? I think Pontiac is in a no-win situation in some ways. Most bash them for too much tack-on pieces, and then when they take most of them off a car (like the GTO, they get bashed for making a boring-looking car. Hard to please everyone. Personally, I hate the idea of non-functional scoops but if you ask me whether I think they have at least "some" value strictly as an decorative piece, I'd have to say yes. | 
03-24-08, 02:59 PM
|  | How YOU doin? Cadillac(s): 2007 SRX (Previously 04 CTS-V) | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Over here. No, not there. | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? If I bought a G8, the first order of business would be to debadge it and make the hood scoop functional (nothing a dremel and some stainless grill mesh couldn't fix, right?  )
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03-24-08, 03:24 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Kooks,MOMO seats,C5 hubs,3489# | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ashland, Ohio | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? 05 and later GTO had rubber plugs behind the twin nostrils that popped right out. Just need some plumbing!
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Originally Posted by The Tony Show If I bought a G8, the first order of business would be to debadge it and make the hood scoop functional (nothing a dremel and some stainless grill mesh couldn't fix, right?  ) | | 
03-24-08, 04:40 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Master | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Newtown, PA Age: 50 | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? There's a lot more to making a functional scoop than simply letting it open up into the engine compartment. | 
03-24-08, 04:54 PM
|  | CTS  ader Cadillac(s): 2006 CTS 3.6 // 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: an I-294 traffic jam Age: 35 | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tony Show If I bought a G8, the first order of business would be to debadge it and make the hood scoop functional (nothing a dremel and some stainless grill mesh couldn't fix, right?  ) | aluminum siding for good measure
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03-24-08, 04:55 PM
|  | CTS  ader Cadillac(s): 2006 CTS 3.6 // 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: an I-294 traffic jam Age: 35 | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? Remember when one year Pontiac decided to remove all body cladding from the Grand Am? I thought it looked good | 
03-24-08, 05:26 PM
|  | How YOU doin? Cadillac(s): 2007 SRX (Previously 04 CTS-V) | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Over here. No, not there. | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? Quote:
Originally Posted by Katshot There's a lot more to making a functional scoop than simply letting it open up into the engine compartment. | Obviously, but while it may not be 100% efficient, at least opening it up reduces the poser factor by 100%.  | 
03-24-08, 07:12 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1996 Eldorado Sport Coupe | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? Looks lik a big Grand Prix to me. | 
03-24-08, 09:42 PM
| | BLING IS AMERICAN RICE Cadillac(s): '04 CTS-V | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Just North of Titletown... | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? I have no problems with the styling cues and find the G8 quite appealing. Really, what's with all the bashing?
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03-24-08, 10:00 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1996 Eldorado Sport Coupe | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? It's not bashing. Every since I seen it that's what I thought. Maybe if seen in person it might change my mind. The STS looks like a bigger CTS as far as I'm concerned. | 
03-24-08, 11:14 PM
|  | CTS  ader Cadillac(s): 2006 CTS 3.6 // 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: an I-294 traffic jam Age: 35 | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? I do think the GXP (or whatever it is they showed) a little busy on the styling front. But it is a nice looking car. | 
03-25-08, 06:48 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Master | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Newtown, PA Age: 50 | | | Re: 09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP? Quote:
Originally Posted by AlBundy It's not bashing. Every since I seen it that's what I thought. Maybe if seen in person it might change my mind. The STS looks like a bigger CTS as far as I'm concerned. | If the crowds around it at the New York show were any indication, the car has generated a great deal of interest at least. Personally, I thought it looked great but it could be the paint plays a major part. That paint job looked gorgeous under those lights. | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | |
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