09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP?

[CTSV_Rob]

Cool shot.

[JimmyH]

I know there is a place for that kind of vehicle. That place is not here.
I am not feelin it.

[The Tony Show]

The place for that is in my garage- I need a truck every once in a while but refuse to buy one due to the crappy handling and ride. An El-Camino-ish, car based vehicle with a decent size bed and an LSx motor would be on my short list.

[thebigjimsho]

People bought huge SUVs when they didn't need them. Part due to style, part due to fuel economy, they buy smaller crossovers. At this time and age, I wouldn't be shocked if they sold a few G8 Caminos...

[CTSV_Rob]

But would you buy the granny apple green?

[JimmyH]

Originally Posted by The Tony Show

The place for that is in my garage- I need a truck every once in a while but refuse to buy one due to the crappy handling and ride. An El-Camino-ish, car based vehicle with a decent size bed and an LSx motor would be on my short list.

I would rather have a third vehicle for that purpose.
you have an SRX, that should suffice for hauling purposes.
Get urself a big sheet of thick plastic for the dirty stuff. we keep one folded up in the pilot.

[HiTechRV]

I'd love the mpg and acceleration of a car based pickup.

[JimmyH]

ridgeline

[BowenCT]

Originally Posted by JimmyH

ridgeline

Isn't the Ridgeline based off the Pilot platform? And last I checked, the Ridgeline wasn't breaking any records in the acceleration department. Nice truck, came very close to buying one a couple years ago.

[Jpjr]

the more i look at the G8, the more i am having flashbacks to the GTO. everyone, especially the car rags, were 200% bullish on it, and when the public decided that it was ugly everyone turned their backs. i think the stupid pontiac nostrils and front end fascia may kill this car, and the stupid truck idea only reinforces the gawdy image. would bmw ever turn their 3 or 5 series into a truck? why would GM want to do that? who bought the SSR? bob lutz is usually right but sometimes he clearly has senior moments.

[JimmyH]

Originally Posted by BowenCT

Isn't the Ridgeline based off the Pilot platform? And last I checked, the Ridgeline wasn't breaking any records in the acceleration department. Nice truck, came very close to buying one a couple years ago.

I know, my point is the ridgeline is car-based (unibody.) Expect to see more and more pickups going that way.

The Pilot is very very nice, and very very boring. But it does what it was designed to better than most. I expect the Ridgeline is the same.

[thebigjimsho]

Originally Posted by Jpjr

the more i look at the G8, the more i am having flashbacks to the GTO. everyone, especially the car rags, were 200% bullish on it, and when the public decided that it was ugly everyone turned their backs. i think the stupid pontiac nostrils and front end fascia may kill this car, and the stupid truck idea only reinforces the gawdy image. would bmw ever turn their 3 or 5 series into a truck? why would GM want to do that? who bought the SSR? bob lutz is usually right but sometimes he clearly has senior moments.

BMW, as well as every German make, strips their 3 and 5 series for taxis. They converted their 3 and 5 series to SUVs, and they make 3 and 5 series wagons, that have only been shunned in the States. If they're already making Holden pickups, it won't cost much to make G8 pickups so they aren't spending a ton of dough on it. And if it succeeds, why not? They'll be virtually unique in a new niche market...

[Jpjr]

Originally Posted by thebigjimsho

BMW, as well as every German make, strips their 3 and 5 series for taxis. They converted their 3 and 5 series to SUVs, and they make 3 and 5 series wagons, that have only been shunned in the States. If they're already making Holden pickups, it won't cost much to make G8 pickups so they aren't spending a ton of dough on it. And if it succeeds, why not? They'll be virtually unique in a new niche market...

you are right on the wagons, but for some reason when i see them i don't get the same gawdy image as i would of another flashback retro truck (in obnoxious paint above) that i argue most people think looks silly and would never own.

but that isn't the big problem with the G8. the big problem is the front end, which screams cheap claddy pontiac. does anyone like those nostrils? do americans really crave a useless hood scoop? and what about the glaring oversights, such as no navigation. the last 3 vehicles i have owned have had NAV, i can't believe they would bring this car to market without it. if you are giong to do things, do them right.

[CTSV_Rob]

Only liked the snout's on the Firehawk. (Functional Ram air)

[dqw1]

Pontiac needs to change their badge.