09' CTS-V vs Little "Big" brother new Pontiac G8 GXP?

[Got5onit]

Originally Posted by atdeneve

S'got the V2 wheels. Looks like an exact copy.

Front 3/4 shot looks like it has the same exact shape as the Gen 2 CTS. Just new surface details/design cues on top of the same shape.



Take off the surface details and slap that signature CTS grille on there and ya got yourself the Caddy.

I mean, the car looks beautiful and I'm not hatin the performance potential, at all, but I hate it when things are simply rehashed across sister brands.

But then again, I guess designs are pretty much echoed even across different manufacturers. Not too fond of that. Get's old. Bleh.

Nice car though.

The thing looks exactly the HSV Commadore, to me. Well, probably 'cause it is!! LOL!!

I love it and will be getting one in 2010.

[Katshot]

It IS a sharp-looking car alright. But then, I've always liked Pontiacs and Holdens too.

[JimmyH]

It has already been determined that they are not the same wheels.

[Jpjr]

Originally Posted by BowenCT

Tony, with all due respect, and I say that sincerely because I read, enjoy and take value in every one of your posts, but the truth of the matter remains that GM service depts. across the board are severely lacking. I know they are not all pitiful, but I can honestly tell you, that in my somewhat limited experience of having bought 4 new GM vehicles in my life, not once, ever, have I left a GM service dept. (multiple dealers) feeling 100% satisfied. I know, I need to find another dealer.

OK, enough of that. Back to the G8/Gen. 2 V.

Service is lacking for one main reason: TOO MANY DEALERS

Get rid of half the dealers accross the country to regain step with demand and the number of good mechanics will go up at every one. Efficiency will go up and overall satisfaction will go up.

But, none of the dealers want to leave thier profession. The same change that needed to occur in car building needs to occur in car selling. It's no easier a decision to downsize.

[JimmyH]

I am not sure I completely agree with that, but a very good point nonetheless.

[Katshot]

Originally Posted by Jpjr

Service is lacking for one main reason: TOO MANY DEALERS

Get rid of half the dealers accross the country to regain step with demand and the number of good mechanics will go up at every one. Efficiency will go up and overall satisfaction will go up.

But, none of the dealers want to leave thier profession. The same change that needed to occur in car building needs to occur in car selling. It's no easier a decision to downsize.

I fail to see your logic. How do you support those statements?

[Katshot]

Originally Posted by JimmyH

It has already been determined that they are not the same wheels.

Took me a minute but yeah, you're right. But damn, they're close.

[JimmyH]

Originally Posted by Katshot

I fail to see your logic. How do you support those statements?

same reason pitching sucks in MLB now. too many teams means not enough talent to go around.

[JimmyH]

Originally Posted by Katshot

Took me a minute but yeah, you're right. But damn, they're close.

No credit to me, I just remember reading it in another thread.

[BowenCT]

I like this version the best .

[JimmyH]

just what the world needs

[BowenCT]

Originally Posted by JimmyH

just what the world needs

Get used to seeing them, it's coming....

[CTSV_Rob]

They didn't last before, Not sure it's a wise move to bring them back but we will see.

The discomforts of a truck, The handling of a truck (weight ratio), the storage of a car...

They will sell a few but I don't see them taking off.

[BowenCT]

Originally Posted by CTSV_Rob

The discomforts of a truck, The handling of a truck (weight ratio), the storage of a car...

They will sell a few but I don't see them taking off.

Or one could say, the practicality of a pick-up bed, the driving dynamics of a car, and the performance of a sports car.

Regardless, you're probably right, they won't sell a ton of them but I'm sure they already know that. That's part of the appeal to me. Apparently it has been a success in Australia wearing the Holden badge. They even have a racing series for them and the Ford counterpart.

[JimmyH]

Originally Posted by BowenCT

and the performance of a sports car.