Anyone 100% buying the day they arrive? - Page 4

**Florian** · #46 (**permalink**) 02-07-08, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kadonny

Why many of us jumped.
I got my dealer to buy it back and moved into the STS-V. I have been a happy Caddy owner ever since.

With all that, I still would glady go back to the CTS-V only because GM has totally redisgned the car. I also found out I like not rowing the gears anymore, so the new V with a paddle auto would fit my bill perfeclty. How can you not love 550 hp with the car designed from ground up to handle it.

Im gonna sit on the sidelines for at least a year...let the bugs work out. My 04CTSv was a grenade waiting to explode. From what the dealer tells me its on its 4th owner in as many years....the STSv has been a blessing. No issues, nice and smooth, but its a barge. I will be back in the CTSv after some of the tweaks are ironed out.

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anonfrank · #47 (**permalink**) 02-07-08, 08:49 PM

I originally thought I'd be in the first group of buyers. I may still make that decision. I will likely wait a few months to see what the reaction here is.

The decision to buy a car like this, with its cost of purchase and cost to operate, is purely based on want rather than need. I definitely want this.

Prior to my considering this car, I had been considering buying a Corvette (always been a personal dream to own one) and keeping my RL as a daily and winter driver. The CTS-V allows me to have both in one car payment.

urbanski · #48 (**permalink**) 02-08-08, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SkullV

I wanted to say it but didn't want to piss urby off!

calling it as you see it is fine

CIWS · #49 (**permalink**) 02-08-08, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Florian

Im gonna sit on the sidelines for at least a year...let the bugs work out. the STSv has been a blessing. No issues, nice and smooth, but its a barge. I will be back in the CTSv after some of the tweaks are ironed out.

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Katshot · #50 (**permalink**) 02-08-08, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Florian

Im gonna sit on the sidelines for at least a year...let the bugs work out. My 04CTSv was a grenade waiting to explode. From what the dealer tells me its on its 4th owner in as many years....the STSv has been a blessing. No issues, nice and smooth, but its a barge. I will be back in the CTSv after some of the tweaks are ironed out.

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Personally, I liked the STS-V better myself, purely from a mainly "looks" point of view. I wonder why you say the car is a "barge" though? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the CTS and STS virtually the same size?

atdeneve · #51 (**permalink**) 02-08-08, 10:59 AM

No, not really.

Katshot · #52 (**permalink**) 02-08-08, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by atdeneve

No, not really.

How so?
Exterior dimensions are pretty damn close. Length is 6" different but width is only 2" different, and height is <1" different. Weight is the biggest difference, Approx. 350# different. Interior dimensions are all within 1-2" too.
So as I said, I'm wondering how one sees the STS as a "barge"?

atdeneve · #53 (**permalink**) 02-08-08, 11:50 AM

It's a barge. Go drive one. Then drive a CTS-V. There are many who've crossed over and they'll all tell you the same. The CTS-V's handling is definitely crisper than the STS-V. The STS-V is over 360 lbs heavier. It's a barge.

Oh, and it's actually 7.5 inches longer. Don't know bout you, but that's a good amount of extra size, if ya ask me.

Cadillac Tony · #54 (**permalink**) 02-08-08, 11:53 AM

Softer suspension tuning, slower steering ratio, more front biased weight distribution and a 3 inch longer wheelbase make a big difference in the handling feel of the STS-V compared to the Gen 1 CTS-V.

BowenCT · #55 (**permalink**) 02-08-08, 11:54 AM

I many times have wondered this myself. The STS is not all that bigger than the CTS (as Katshot pointed out), but having driven both (never driven a STS-V) many times, the driving dynamics are just two worlds apart. The CTS, to me, always feels smaller than it is, and the STS feels, well, like a big heavy car, aka "a barge".

BowenCT · #56 (**permalink**) 02-08-08, 11:55 AM

Tony just summed it up best!

Katshot · #57 (**permalink**) 02-08-08, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadillac Tony

Softer suspension tuning, slower steering ratio, more front biased weight distribution and a 3 inch longer wheelbase make a big difference in the handling feel of the STS-V compared to the Gen 1 CTS-V.

I can see that the car might be a slightly softer version of virtually the same car (dimensionally) but found it odd to call it a "barge". Also, I can't find weight distribution figures for the two car but wonder why the STS would be more front end heavy since has a lighter engine. The supercharger adds a lot of weight I guess. Shades of why the '09 CTS-V is so heavy? Maybe. But on top of all that, don't forget the STS-V has a good deal more power than the CTS-V (Gen. 1 of course).
Personally, the thing that kills to car for me is the price. Talk about sticker-shock.

***Brett*** · #58 (**permalink**) 02-08-08, 02:28 PM

How is the STS-V even viable as a model after the CTS-V comes out? That being said how is the STS viable at all?

Dave's V · #59 (**permalink**) 02-08-08, 02:42 PM

STS is a barge, a nice one but it is still one. The CTS is designed to get first time Cadillac owners, STS is decided for those that want an "upgrade" in size. I would probably go with the AWD version of the STS but now the CTS has one also.

Cadillac Tony · #60 (**permalink**) 02-08-08, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Katshot

Also, I can't find weight distribution figures for the two car but wonder why the STS would be more front end heavy since has a lighter engine.

I don't know how you figure it has a lighter engine, because the Northstar VVT is one heavy sucker. Quad cam, cam phasers, intercooler, supercharger, pullies, 4 valves per cylinder....it all adds up to a lot more than a 2 valve per cylinder, cam in block motor like the LS6.