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01-09-08, 10:55 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 08 CTS, 03 Z06 LS2 408 track car, 07 Q7 tow vehicle | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL | | | What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release 1) Lower the car by 1 1/2 inches (height now listed as same as base CTS)
2) Front spoiler extension
3) Improve that bodykit
4) Standard bluetooth interface
5) Shed 100 lbs (at least)
Please GM listen.
Last edited by Dr Chill; 01-09-08 at 11:03 PM.
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01-09-08, 11:55 PM
|  | aka neuronbob Cadillac(s): Radiant Silver/Ebony 2009 CTS-V, auto | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cleveland area, OH | | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release What, and give us nothing to mod?  I'm sure someone will make lowering springs or a coilover for this car.
Seriously, the main thing needed is BT. I can't live without the integrated handsfree in my current car. I personally don't want to pay Verizon for the use of the OnStar phone. | 
01-10-08, 12:30 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Master Cadillac(s): 2004 Cadillac CTS-V | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 23 | | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release 1. Re-do the front cause it looks so damn ricey.
2. Bet rid of that chrome.
3. Send one to me for testing.
__________________ 2004 Cadillac CTS-V
- Z06 FRCs, B&B LT headers cats x-pipe & mufflers, W4M tune, Sport Appearance spoiler, B&M shifter, 8000k low beams & fogs, Black mesh, LEDs, 35% tint, etc.  2004 Cadillac CTS 3.6L
- V bumper, 18" MC2 Vauss rims, Sport Appearance Pkg, 8000k low beams & fogs, UUC brakes, Front & Rear STB, V shocks & sways, etc. | 
01-10-08, 12:44 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 05CTS-v plat, 07 Escalade quicksilver | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: oc california | | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release Price it under 70k the rest I'll change myself this is a keeper......... | 
01-10-08, 12:48 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): His n' hers '06 V's | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Age: 35 | | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release I'm not sure about lowering it any further. The front fascia on the '08 scrapes more than my '06 V. Any lower, and you'll be constantly plowing asphalt.
Weight loss is what I would really be looking for. 4,200lbs?!? The current gen V rolls in at about 3,550 lbs. 150 extra HP isn't that compelling when you weight 700lbs more.
BT would be nice, but GM seems to have some sort of mental block... | 
01-10-08, 01:01 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 05CTS-v plat, 07 Escalade quicksilver | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: oc california | | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release I thought our cars were about 3800lbs  Still heavy at 4200 no doubt | 
01-10-08, 01:25 AM
|  | Nucking Car Fut "If cool, must own" Cadillac(s): 2009 CTS-V, 60 Coupe Deville | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northeast Ohio hammer down Age: 41 | | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release 1. Make sure the new cast iron rear (if stronger) fits in both the new and old cars!!!
2. Provide a spare tire
3. Make the Valentine 1 Radar detector standard equiptment!
4. Move the Tach to the right of center in dash.
5. Heads up display
6. Offer significant discount to old V owners looking to trade in for new V. | 
01-10-08, 07:45 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 08 CTS, 03 Z06 LS2 408 track car, 07 Q7 tow vehicle | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL | | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release Absolutely needs a spare tire as standard. BT is a must on a $60,000 + car. Still favor lowering and a rubber airdam extension/protector. | 
01-10-08, 08:57 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Central FL | | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release GM's release said "factory-installed Bluetooth capability". Is that something different than what you guys want? I assumed that meant full integration with the speakers, etc., for BT phones. | 
01-10-08, 10:23 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 05 V -Blk/Blk/Blk Corsa exhaust, UCC, K&N, Kooks Headers, | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bradenton FL | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release They could shed some much unneeded weight by dropping that "dual mass" flywheel" otherwise we will still have the same old "clunk -Clunk" from the drive train - the "parade clunk" don't ya know??  Obviously, GM still refuses to learn from experience!!!  Fortunately what with the RV cam they are putting in the V version of the LSA, there is probably a quick 50HP to be had with a "stick change". | 
01-10-08, 10:38 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2009 Black Raven CTS-V | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 45 | | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Chill 4) Standard bluetooth interface |
I thought I read it was going to have standard bt. | 
01-10-08, 11:30 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Master Cadillac(s): '05 CTS-V | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Elkridge, MD Age: 37 | | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release Quote:
Originally Posted by nutzabout_v 1. Make sure the new cast iron rear (if stronger) fits in both the new and old cars!!!
2. Provide a spare tire
3. Make the Valentine 1 Radar detector standard equiptment!
4. Move the Tach to the right of center in dash.
5. Heads up display
6. Offer significant discount to old V owners looking to trade in for new V. | You'll get none of that and (not) like it. Quote:
Originally Posted by lonestranger They could shed some much unneeded weight by dropping that "dual mass" flywheel" otherwise we will still have the same old "clunk -Clunk" from the drive train - the "parade clunk" don't ya know??  Obviously, GM still refuses to learn from experience!!!  Fortunately what with the RV cam they are putting in the V version of the LSA, there is probably a quick 50HP to be had with a "stick change". | Dual mass flywheel is assinine. Also I don't think you are gonna get much with a camshaft swap, in a blown application. Hell getting 50 in an LS6/LS2 is hard to do without going very high duration / tight LSA. You just can't do that in a forced induction car (without loosing as ass load of boost).
I predict on of the first major mods to this car will be a plus sized crank pulley, to up the boost, since it sounds like making the SC pulley small will be very difficult.
-Chris
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01-10-08, 12:01 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 2004 CTS-V | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gillette, WY Age: 28 | | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release Quote:
Originally Posted by theformer I'm not sure about lowering it any further. The front fascia on the '08 scrapes more than my '06 V. Any lower, and you'll be constantly plowing asphalt.
Weight loss is what I would really be looking for. 4,200lbs?!? The current gen V rolls in at about 3,550 lbs. 150 extra HP isn't that compelling when you weight 700lbs more.
BT would be nice, but GM seems to have some sort of mental block... | The current gen Vs weigh in @ 3850 lbs + (17.5 gal tank / gasoline is 6 lbs/gallon = 105 lbs) + (180 lbs average male's weight) = 4135 lbs
So, the grand total weight of the current Vs with a full tank of gas and driver is less than what the new V will be dry.
Some more math (and this goes along with this thread because I think GM should put the 09 V on a diet).
Current V = 405 hp (395 tq) @ 3850 lb = 1:9.506 power to weight ratio
(which means that every 1 hp carries 9.506 lbs)
2009 V = 550 hp (550 tq) @ 4200 lb = 1:7.636 power to weight ratio
(which means that every 1 hp carries 7.636 lbs)
Although, now that I have written this out, I am pretty impressed. The smaller the number, the better. But we also have to take into consideration weight distribution, etc. to see if it will really out-perform the current generation in every category and be worth all the extra cash.
__________________ 2004 CTS-V Mods: Lingenfelter CAI, OEM style spoiler, CCW SP600 wheels (19"x9" and 19"x10"), Toyo Proxes R888 (F: 235/35YR19 - R: 295/30YR19), Magnaflow Cat-back, UUC Shifter w/ Lindsay bushings, FG2 shocks, GC Coilover Kit (600f/650r), Hotchkis Swaybars, Custom FRCs, Kooks 1 3/4" Cermakromed LT Headers & HiFlo cats, ARP Header Studs, Granatelli 1200* Wires, NGK TR55ix Plugs, OC Autosports D&S Rotors, Hawk Pads, SS Brake Lines, 561 Wheelhop Kit, D.R.E. Dyno Tune = 351 hp/ 365 ft-lbs (corrected) | 
01-10-08, 01:18 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): NONE | | Join Date: May 2005 Age: 38 | | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release This vehicle needs one important change: FORGED PISTONS!!!!!!!! | 
01-10-08, 02:57 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2004 CTS-V | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Leesburg, Florida | | | Re: What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release Bluetooth is standard, as already noted.
Spare tire won't happen, as the tub in the trunk is too small and the car is already a bit overweight.
The dual mass flywheel isn't the culprit of the current gen clunking- that's sloppy rear diff bushings and driveshaft. I put a single piece, lightweight FW in my current CTS-V and am not sure I'd do it again. The car does rev a little quicker, but the extra rotational inertia gives a nice bit of "oomph" on shifts that is now gone.
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