What GM should do to improve the 2009 CTS-V before final release

[VelocitySTSV]

How about electronic fold in mirrors, rear backup camera's, frontal parking sensors, and a blue tooth system capable of downloading your address book..All standard in higher end imports. I would love to see it.

[CVP33]

Wheelie bars damnit! What were you thinking GM?!

[onebadcad]

Originally Posted by CVP33

Wheelie bars damnit! What were you thinking GM?!

Wheelie bars would shred the rear parachutes, s, as in multiple.

[v84life]

What is the weight of the competition? M5 ,E63, RS6, am I missing any....? Does anybody have that handy?

[austin]

My only request.... Make the NAV hackable to play movies (for passenger enjoyment only of course) while you drive!!

[theformer]

2008 BMW M5 MT -> 4,012 lbs
2008 Mercedes AMG E63 -> 4,035 lbs
2007 Audi S6 AT -> 4,486 lbs (couldn't find the RS6)
2009 BMW M3 MT -> 3,649 lbs
2007 Audi RS4 MT -> 3,957 lbs

I would have liked to add the C63 as well but couldn't find that listed anywhere. The C350 rolls at 3,527 lbs.

Incidentally, I got the 3,509 lbs for the previous gen CTS from http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/...ctsv&year=2007. My understanding of curb weight is that includes standard operating equipment...

[moldowan]

Originally Posted by v84life

What is the weight of the competition? M5 ,E63, RS6, am I missing any....? Does anybody have that handy?

rs6 avant- 4,464.4
E63 amg- 4,035
cls63- 4,199.8
e60 M5- 4,310
-Moldy- 205lbs

[Black Majick]

Originally Posted by Me Wanna A V

This vehicle needs one important change:

FORGED PISTONS!!!!!!!!

I was curious about that myself. I'm wondering, and hoping, that was a typo in the press release as the info on the LS9 in the ZR1 states that there are forged slugs installed in it. I also noticed a 0.1 difference in the compression ratio listed between the LS9 and LSA. I've read many a publication from the general that were laden with typo's, so I wouldn't get too worried until the final stats are released.

[pietroraimondi]

Originally Posted by anonfrank

What, and give us nothing to mod? I'm sure someone will make lowering springs or a coilover for this car..

The standard Magnetic Ride Shock suspension (RPO F550) will make lowering the vehicle all but virtually impossible unless you completely remove an otherwise $3000 stellar suspension system.

Originally Posted by Black Majick

I was curious about that myself. I'm wondering, and hoping, that was a typo in the press release as the info on the LS9 in the ZR1 states that there are forged slugs installed in it. I also noticed a 0.1 difference in the compression ratio listed between the LS9 and LSA. I've read many a publication from the general that were laden with typo's, so I wouldn't get too worried until the final stats are released.

The pistons in the LSA are cast aluminum. The LSA engine is an otherwise LS3 2008 C6 engine with the GM OEM Eaton sourced 1900 series 4 lobe positive displacement supercharger.

The LSA and LS3 are both rated at a maximum of 650 BHP with its stock internal rotating assembly.

[onebadcad]

Originally Posted by theformer

2008 BMW M5 MT -> 4,012 lbs
2008 Mercedes AMG E63 -> 4,035 lbs
2007 Audi S6 AT -> 4,486 lbs (couldn't find the RS6)
2009 BMW M3 MT -> 3,649 lbs
2007 Audi RS4 MT -> 3,957 lbs

I would have liked to add the C63 as well but couldn't find that listed anywhere. The C350 rolls at 3,527 lbs.

Incidentally, I got the 3,509 lbs for the previous gen CTS from http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/...ctsv&year=2007. My understanding of curb weight is that includes standard operating equipment...

Curb weight=the weight of a fueled automobile with standard equipment but without cargo or passengers

Saw two sites for C63 weight, one was 'roughly' 3,800lbs, the other was 3,815lbs, either one is less than the V.

[CVP33]

Originally Posted by austin

My only request.... Make the NAV hackable to play movies (for passenger enjoyment only of course) while you drive!!

Pop up porn?

[veloce]

Forged pistons for added saftey margin. HD Radio so you don't have to do Sat Radio . Jeff

[NIK]

Originally Posted by v84life

Price it under 70k the rest I'll change myself this is a keeper.........

Until the next "something new." - I love my '05 and will drive it 'til the wheels fall off !!

[Katshot]

I for one am tired of hearing people whine about the lack of "forged pistons". Why on God's green earth does the CTS-V need them? No question they're stronger but so are several other items that GM cut on the CTS-V parts list. Personally, I think it's just that the buzz word "forged" gets so many non-professionals so warm and fuzzy that they'd vote for virtually ANYTHING on the car being "forged". Problem is, they'd also be the same people whining about the high sticker price of the car if GM didn't make cost-cutting (within reason) a fact of life on this car.
Overall, I think the car is a huge step forward from the gen. 1 CTS-V (which by the way was a great car in it's own right), and a VERY risky move for GM considering the current state of our economy and the automotive industry as a whole. Hell, as weak as the dollar is, they should be marketing the car mainly toward the export buyers.

[Me Wanna A V]

Katshot:

Since I'm the one who pretty much highlighted this "issue" to everyone on this forum, let me try to defend my opinion as to why "I" feel this vehicle "needs" "Forged pistons".

On my old 1995 Cobra I decided to add a Vortech supercharger to my car which already was making 306 rwhp with heads and cam. (Stay with me now- this was back in 1997, so 306 rwhp on that car equated to a 109.32 mph in the 1/4 mile and plenty fast for it's time). Anyways, after putting on the blower and making 480 @ the wheels, guess how long my motor lasted with the stock HYPEREUTECTIC PISTONS! How about 5 months! Yes, it had a custom tune, but there comes a time when the internals "need" to be better.

After melting two pistons, I had to spend $ for a new short block. Did I put hyper pistons back in the new block? NO! I spent the EXTRA (I don't know the amount off hand) money for Forged Pistons. Now it kills me when people are suggesting that GM did this as a cost cutting reason. What? Or better yet, forged pistons are louder and they wouldn't want that added noise in a Cadillac. Come on, give me a break. You know how loud a motor is when the pistons melt?