09 V rumour thread...get ur 09 rumours here...yeah baby

[JimmyH]

Originally Posted by mbiker97

I actually really like those door inserts! at the classic biker chick!

finally, someone with taste!

[ZEUSROTTY]

Originally Posted by JimmyH

finally, someone with taste!

lol... yeah. one guy.

[RightTurn]

[JimmyH]

Originally Posted by ZEUSROTTY

lol... yeah. one guy.

[heavymetals]

I want to see the 2009 V come in at less then $68k.

I have a bet with a friend of mine that it won't be less then $65k

[Kadonny]

Oh god heavy, no way the 09 V comes in more than 65k. I'll take that bet right now.

GM can't raise the price from low 50' to mid 60's, it just won't happen, the car won't sell. Look for the price to be high 50's.

[heavymetals]

Well if you think so I am willing to bet a dinner on it.

Reason?

A CTS-V cost just as much as a C5 Z06 in 2005 ($52k).

If they get 550 to 600 hp I figure an upcharge of a minimum of $9k motor wise and another $8-10k in everything else.

I just saw a new CTS with a sticker very close to $49k.

Do the math.

I know it is nothing more then speculation, but I still think the V will be close to if not over $65k.

[Cadillac Tony]

Originally Posted by heavymetals

Well if you think so I am willing to bet a dinner on it.

Reason?

A CTS-V cost just as much as a C5 Z06 in 2005 ($52k).

If they get 550 to 600 hp I figure an upcharge of a minimum of $9k motor wise and another $8-10k in everything else.

I just saw a new CTS with a sticker very close to $49k.

Do the math.

I know it is nothing more then speculation, but I still think the V will be close to if not over $65k.

Alternate line of thinking:

2008 CTS with the 3.6L PFI engine bases out for the same as an 07. Cut & sew interior, turn by turn navigation, larger standard wheel and brakes, nicer key fob, rear air and VASTLY improved quality of materials.

How'd they do that?

[lunarx]

Originally Posted by heavymetals

Well if you think so I am willing to bet a dinner on it.

Reason?

A CTS-V cost just as much as a C5 Z06 in 2005 ($52k).

If they get 550 to 600 hp I figure an upcharge of a minimum of $9k motor wise and another $8-10k in everything else.

I just saw a new CTS with a sticker very close to $49k.

Do the math.

I know it is nothing more then speculation, but I still think the V will be close to if not over $65k.

Yes, It's crazy what V-6 DI CTS are listing for.
Those cars should have 360+HP for their near 50K price.
It's looking like the new V will be $$$ and very limited.

[Cadillac Tony]

Originally Posted by lunarx

Yes, It's crazy what V-6 DI CTS are listing for.
Those cars should have 360+HP for their near 50K price.
It's looking like the new V will be $$$ and very limited.

The only way to get a DI CTS anywhere near 50k is with AWD, Performance package, premium luxury w/nav, premuim paint and ultraview.

Take out AWD and premium paint (neither of which will be on the V) and you've already cut $3,900 off the MSRP. A loaded DI without these goes for ~45k. The previous V was about 10k more than a loaded CTS, and this should be no different.

GM will gut our markup to nothing to keep the sticker competitive, mark my words-they've already done it on the 08 CTS.

[heavymetals]

Gutted the markup?

Cmon.

Don't tell me the dealers aren't going to slap an upcharge on a limited production car in high demand.

At least initally.

[JimmyH]

I would like to see them trim about 500 lbs off the car. I know its no SRT, but at 3800 lbs or so, the current V is already a fatass. What is the 09 going to be? Over 4000 lbs someone estimated?

[JimmyH]

Originally Posted by heavymetals

Don't tell me the dealers aren't going to slap an upcharge on a limited production car in high demand.

not unless they want to start sending buyers over to Chrysler to look at the $45k SRT8. which is going to be more comparable now that the V is getting an auto (and I would be willing to bet about 75-85% of them will be auto)

[Cadillac Tony]

Originally Posted by heavymetals

Gutted the markup?

Cmon.

Don't tell me the dealers aren't going to slap an upcharge on a limited production car in high demand.

At least initally.

Whether or not they slap an addendum sticker on the car, the fact remains that GM has methodically cut our markup between Invoice and MSRP over the last 5 years. I remember having 20% markup to negotiate on, but now we're around 5-8% TOPS on a base car.

I'm sure some dealers will put bump stickers on them (I won't), but that wasn't my point. The discussion is about MSRP, and I'd bet that the markup in the '09 CTS-V will be small in order to keep the sticker price well below the competition.

[heavymetals]

Your right, we were discussing MSRP.

I still believe that the new CTS-V will be very close to $65k if not $68K.

And it will only be available loaded to the hilt.