09 V rumour thread...get ur 09 rumours here...yeah baby

[The Tony Show]

Originally Posted by thebigjimsho™

That's like us complaining about 400hp and getting 1,500hp. Or like going from a glass rear end to a clay one...

I have been nothing but pleasantly surprised at the level of technology on the new CTS. Cadillac finally stopped screwing around and is doing it right.

[thebigjimsho]

Originally Posted by urbanski

will there be a sybian somewhere?

They turn 40 and their minds turn to the gutter...

[P-Funk]

Originally Posted by urbanski

will there be a sybian somewhere?

You can get your own. They are available online but might be kind of expensive. I think it would make some people very uneasy if they came with the car from the factory. http://www.siberianbrides.com/












Oh, you didn't say Siberian did you? My bad.

[The Tony Show]

I was down at my local Dildo Emporium one day (What? I was researching for a paper I'm writing....), and they had a Sybian on display there.

I turned that thing on, and I swear- any Woman who rides one of those things will never be able to be pleased by a man again. Ever. It almost shook my fillings out, and I wasn't even touching it!

[Cadillac Tony]

Bored at work, so here's some more random nifty facts about the '08 CTS that will also apply to the V:

-Adaptive forward lighting steers the headlights up to 15deg. depending on steering input, just like the XLR. This really has to be seen at night to appreciate- it's awesome.

-When switching between screens on the Navigation radio (like from XM to Nav, or back again) the screens "fade" into each other, sort of like Windows Vista. Another "gotta see it to appreciate it", but it looks wicked.

-The seam where the roof meets the side of the body is no longer covered by the big strip of plastic that runs the length of the roof. 2008 models use "Lazer Brazing" to join the two panels- once it's painted, you can't even see the joint, which leaves a smooth transition with no molding required. The windshield also no longer has a molding, which takes balls to do. You can hide a lot of fitment issues with moldings, so Cadillac must be pretty confident in their assembly process to use exposed edge of glass on the windshield.

-Battery is now in the trunk (presumably for weight distribution), over on the passenger side behind a cover.

-Rear A/C vents for the kiddies and back seat passengers (finally!)

-"E-Z Key" system is like a cross between the STS and a regular key. The car unlocks just by pulling the door handle if you're carrying the fob in your pocket, but instead of a pushbutton on the dash, there's a chrome "key" permanently sticking out of the ignition on the steering column. You depress the brake and twist this to start the car. According to the engineers, they felt that the "turning the key" was an important bond between a driver and sports car, and that's why it was chosen over a pushbutton. (I'm still wondering how many broken windows we'll see because a thief thinks the key is left in it.....we'll see.)


That's about all I can think of right now. Yeah, it's no V info, but since all these goodies should be included on the V it half counts.

[thebigjimsho]

Cadillac Tony, are you even half as awesome as The Tony Show?

[Cadillac Tony]

I don't know, he sets a pretty high standard for coolness.



(pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!)

[Jon]

Originally Posted by Cadillac Tony

there's a chrome "key" permanently sticking out of the ignition on the steering column.

I REALLY dislike that idea. I can already guarantee there will be stupid thieves who mistake that for the actual key. I foresee lots of '08 CTS with broken windows.

[JimmyH]

Are we seeing the end of the traditional key? Call me old fashioned, but I really dislike this whole pushbutton (or fixed knob) starting thing. And as for the electronic fob, what if I walk past my car (for whatever reason) and it unlocks the car as I walk past, and fails to lock it when I walk away? And worst of all, what happens when the battery dies in the fob, and now with no key, how the hell do I get in the car?

[Jon]

Originally Posted by JimmyH

Are we seeing the end of the traditional key? Call me old fashioned, but I really dislike this whole pushbutton (or fixed knob) starting thing. And as for the electronic fob, what if I walk past my car (for whatever reason) and it unlocks the car as I walk past, and fails to lock it when I walk away? And worst of all, what happens when the battery dies in the fob, and now with no key, how the hell do I get in the car?

You sit there and cry.

[RightTurn]

Originally Posted by Cadillac Tony

(pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!)

[Cadillac Tony]

Originally Posted by JimmyH

Are we seeing the end of the traditional key? Call me old fashioned, but I really dislike this whole pushbutton (or fixed knob) starting thing. And as for the electronic fob, what if I walk past my car (for whatever reason) and it unlocks the car as I walk past, and fails to lock it when I walk away? And worst of all, what happens when the battery dies in the fob, and now with no key, how the hell do I get in the car?

The car doesn't lock and unlock based on your proximity. When someone actually pulls the Driver's door handle, it does a quick check to see if the fob is within 3 feet of the door and if it is, unlocks. There is a keyhole on the driver's door for a slim emergency key that's built into the keyfob (It's pretty slick)

As far as locking, when the last door is closed the car polls for the keyfob with an antenna mounted inside the car. If the fob is no longer in the interior, it locks the doors after 5 seconds. If the last door is closed and the fob is still inside the car, the horn sounds three times to let you know that the car is not going to lock itself. This is to prevent the car from being unknowingly left unlocked if your fob were to slip out of your pocket while driving.

Each time you start the car it takes a reading of the fob battery. If low, it gives you a "Fob Battery Low" warning on the DIC every time you start the car, basically annoying you until you change the battery. In the event the fob just totally dies out of nowhere, all the Cadillacs with the keyless access have a "failsafe" slot that you can put the keyfob in to start the car, even if the battery is dead as a doornail.

They've covered their bases with this system. I was skeptical when the XLR first got it in 2004, but it's worked flawlessly on that, the STS and now the CTS. It's a well designed piece of technology.

[v84life]

Thanks Tony for clearing things up. I also had similar concerns about the key... NOW if we could get some info on the 09V that would be great...

[Jon]

Originally Posted by Cadillac Tony

The car doesn't lock and unlock based on your proximity. When someone actually pulls the Driver's door handle, it does a quick check to see if the fob is within 3 feet of the door and if it is, unlocks. There is a keyhole on the driver's door for a slim emergency key that's built into the keyfob (It's pretty slick)

As far as locking, when the last door is closed the car polls for the keyfob with an antenna mounted inside the car. If the fob is no longer in the interior, it locks the doors after 5 seconds. If the last door is closed and the fob is still inside the car, the horn sounds three times to let you know that the car is not going to lock itself. This is to prevent the car from being unknowingly left unlocked if your fob were to slip out of your pocket while driving.

Each time you start the car it takes a reading of the fob battery. If low, it gives you a "Fob Battery Low" warning on the DIC every time you start the car, basically annoying you until you change the battery. In the event the fob just totally dies out of nowhere, all the Cadillacs with the keyless access have a "failsafe" slot that you can put the keyfob in to start the car, even if the battery is dead as a doornail.

They've covered their bases with this system. I was skeptical when the XLR first got it in 2004, but it's worked flawlessly on that, the STS and now the CTS. It's a well designed piece of technology.

What about theives mistaking it for the actual key? They walk by and see a key in the ignition for a brand new Caddy...

[Cadillac Tony]

As I said a few posts ago, that's one of the concerns I raised with the product team.

It doesn't actually look exactly like a key- it's a raised chrome and rubber "fin" (picture an oven knob like this one- I know....)





I still think it looks enough like a key to attract a few overeager theives, so I suppose only time will tell.