09 V rumour thread...get ur 09 rumours here...yeah baby

[GNSCOTT]

Originally Posted by lawfive

My most definitive prediction:

Fer sur under $60K amd most likely under $55 for the base

Will have options this time to load up the price

Under $60k is a 100% pipe dream. How do you think it will cost less than a Z06 with a more powerful engine which will also mean a much stronger transmission, DS, and rear end. They will keep it under the price of an M5. I am guessing $85k but there is no way it will cost less than $70k. It will be around 600hp and Lutz did say that if BMW does not do something to the M5 that the V will suck the doors off of it.


It will be priced between the M3 and M5 and going after the M5 and being a better performer, it will be cloer in price to the M5 than the M3. I am saving my pennies now.

[lunarx]

Time will tell.
But how far up the food chain can the CTS really go.
If a base CTS is 35K, then the V can't be double that.
It's already hard enogh on us seeing all the CTS on the road making us feel like one of the AARP crowd.


Without extensive lightening (like Z06) GM can't demand that much of a price jump.
We are really only talking about using off the shelf drivetrain parts and retrofitting to the V.
GM can do that for dirt cheap and should keep the cost resonable to us.
I would be more worried about greedy dealers trying to Market Adjust the car when it is first released.

[lunarx]

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[90Brougham350]

Originally Posted by lunarx

Time will tell.
But how far up the food chain can the CTS really go.
If a base CTS is 35K, then the V can't be double that.

Well, the MSRP on a 528i is $44,300.00 and the MSRP on an M5 is $82,500.00. I didn't add options to either, just left them plain, and I understand the 528i is the bottom of the barrel, but if BMW can nearly double the price between the base 5-series and the M5, why can't the difference between a base CTS and a V be nearly double?

Brian

[lunarx]

Originally Posted by 90Brougham350

Well, the MSRP on a 528i is $44,300.00 and the MSRP on an M5 is $82,500.00. I didn't add options to either, just left them plain, and I understand the 528i is the bottom of the barrel, but if BMW can nearly double the price between the base 5-series and the M5, why can't the difference between a base CTS and a V be nearly double?

Brian

The M5 is not parts bin engineering like the V.

Have you seen the Brake Rotors on an M5?
I forget what that technology is called but the disk is floating on pins.
The M5 engine is a V10 with formula-1 trickle down engineering behind it.

I'm just saying GM should not double the price, just because BMW does.
That would be insulting to our intellegence.
The next V will be very economical for GM to build (with a parts bin drivetrain) and GM should price it to us accordingly.

GM may need to cover their warranty costs though, so on that point, I could see a big price bump.

[JimmyH]

Originally Posted by lunarx

The M5 is not parts bin engineering like the V......

With you all the way....


L5: 'crisco' I think is ok, that should be up to Urb...

[lawfive]

Originally Posted by GNSCOTT

Under $60k is a 100% pipe dream. How do you think it will cost less than a Z06 with a more powerful engine which will also mean a much stronger transmission, DS, and rear end. They will keep it under the price of an M5. I am guessing $85k but there is no way it will cost less than $70k. It will be around 600hp and Lutz did say that if BMW does not do something to the M5 that the V will suck the doors off of it.


It will be priced between the M3 and M5 and going after the M5 and being a better performer, it will be cloer in price to the M5 than the M3. I am saving my pennies now.

Vee shall see vut vee shall see...

[The Tony Show]

Originally Posted by 90Brougham350

Well, the MSRP on a 528i is $44,300.00 and the MSRP on an M5 is $82,500.00. I didn't add options to either, just left them plain, and I understand the 528i is the bottom of the barrel, but if BMW can nearly double the price between the base 5-series and the M5, why can't the difference between a base CTS and a V be nearly double?

Brian

The BMW example you quoted is a 79% price increase from the base to the M. If you compare base to base on the current-gen CTS, it's a similar ratio.

Base CTS (2.8L) - $30,670
Base CTS-V - $53,470

That's a 74% price increase from a base CTS to a base V.

The '09 CTS is expected to base out around $32,500, so if the bump for the V model stays the same, you're looking at $56,500.

Originally Posted by The Tony Show

Just over 500hp, awesome interior, solid launch ability and under $60k

[Art138]

The new Viper SRT is rumored to have only a modest increase in MSRP (5 thousand dollars) with the 600HP spike, new hood, and interior combination choices. If we follow this "parts bin" strategy which America manufactures are tied to (due to economies of scale) - expect MSRP between 60-65 thousand.

[v84life]

Originally Posted by Art138

The new Viper SRT is rumored to have only a modest increase in MSRP (5 thousand dollars) with the 600HP spike, new hood, and interior combination choices. If we follow this "parts bin" strategy which America manufactures are tied to (due to economies of scale) - expect MSRP between 60-65 thousand.

I'm a buyer .

[The Tony Show]

Originally Posted by v84life

I'm a buyer .

If you're a buyer at $65k then call me up, because I'd love to sell a car for $8k over window sticker.

[v84life]

Tony I don't think the sticker will be 55k. Thats just too good to be true. I think maybe 59k with no options. We will see. I'm still a buyer as long as it stays under 65k.

[The Tony Show]

Originally Posted by v84life

Tony I don't think the sticker will be 55k. Thats just too good to be true. I think maybe 59k with no options. We will see. I'm still a buyer as long as it stays under 65k.

Me too, but probably not the first year. As much as it pains me to admit it, I'm taking a seat on the sidelines and observing what happens with reliability before jumping in. Considering the beating the resale value of my current V has taken, I'll be in it for at least another 2 years before I feel I've gotten my money's worth.

[Kadonny]

I think it will be just over 55k. I don't think it will jump to 59K, I don't see it happening.

You have to look model year to model year. Caddy won't jump from 53 to 59.

[thebigjimsho]

My dream car was purchased at sticker because it was new and special as Caddy's first effort. From now on, I wait an extra year and call Chesrown...