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Old 06-30-08, 04:10 PM
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Missing My CTS: Some Observations

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It's been about two months since my lease expired on my 2005 CTS. Given my current economic situation, I leased a 2008 Altima 4 banger with comparable features. I even went with the same color combo (white with black leather). Aside from the obvious differences (class/price, powertrain/fuel economy, make, driven wheels, certain options) here are some observations:

SOLID BUILD:
After 42k miles with the CTS, there was hardly a squeak or rattle to be heard. Sometimes, I felt the driver seat shift, but a couple of slight adjustments to the positioning cleared that issue. I had to replace the dash speakers in the Altima after 500 miles since they rattled. I have a feeling the issue might come back. The seat also shifts in turns, and some of the gaps are misaligned, but it's not that bad.

LEATHER SEATING:
The leather seating surfaces of the CTS far surpassed those of the Altima. Great break-in on the CTS.

PAINT:
White Diamond was a thing of beauty especially after a few coats of Zaino. I went for the metallic white on the Altima, but it's not on the same level.

EXTERIOR STYLING:
Loved it more and more each day with the CTS. Loved the grill, high beltline, sharp corners, and wedge shaped front and rear. Altima: turns me off with each passing day. From the graphics on the tires, to the awkward oversized amber taillights. It's a strange looking car to say the least. Sort of a cross between an airplane and a pear.

INTERIOR STLYING:
Score one to the Altima for getting this right. The deep orange instrumentation is crystal clear, simple, and well laid out. I know, I know the interior of the CTS has been talked about ad nauseum, but I didn't mind it at all... and just look at the improvement in the 2008!

NUANCES I MISS:
-I loved that I could open the window after a rain shower, and water would not drip in. Not so with the Altima.
-I loved the fact that the mist function of the wiper stalk was a down push. On the Altima, you have to toggle the stalk up which is sort of annoying.
-Foglights. The 1st GEN CTS had the best in the business. Not available with the 4-cyl Altima with my trim package.
-CTS didn't knock around in the wind as much.
-Fold-in side view mirrors.
-and of course the fun and freedom of RWD, V6 power, taught handling, and nice sounding exhaust note.

NUANCES I DON'T MISS:
-Loud Door chime.
-Driving in the snow.
-Jarring ride at times.
-Tiny glove box.

NUANCES I WISH THE CTS HAD (THAT THE ALTIMA HAS):
-Key fob....no more fumbling with keys.
-Third cup holder...I thought two were great, but having three is amazing.
-Pull-out extender visors.

In summary, CTS owners should be proud. Your CTS will leave a lasting impression. Shoot, even my friends and family miss the car. It was a big, beautiful, and fun ride. I really wanted a new CTS, but the prospects of lower lease payments and gas bills quickly put those temptations to rest. I continue to lurk on the forums because after all, I will get into a Caddy again.
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Very nice wright up!
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Re: Missing My CTS: Some Observations

Wow after the reading your making me think about getting rid of my CTS, I have been going back and fourth with getting rid of it daily
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Re: Missing My CTS: Some Observations

I bet I miss my CTS more. Its totaled out. i want to get another But I know it won't be the same. The real kicker was the 4 parts that were on the way to my house when it happened. It sucked opening them and not having a damn car to put them on
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Re: Missing My CTS: Some Observations

Whoa, what happened there, Hitch?
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Re: Missing My CTS: Some Observations

o wow, sorry about that hitch!
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Re: Missing My CTS: Some Observations

Well written CHUCK, thank you. I have a 2005 myself and the lease expires the first of December. I'm not sure what to do. I dearly love my CTS, regardless of its shortcomings. The purchase price on the lease agreement is $20K. I'm afraid though that it won't be worth that much in December. According to the Kelly Blue Book website it's worth $21K today. December may see it fall to $18-19K. And I wonder about the wisdom of actually going in to debt that amount for a car with no warranty. (I'm a big fan of leasing)

I too think the ride is fairly harsh on many worn or broken pavements.

I'm curious about one of your comments: What exactly did you mean when you write that your CTS didn't have a key-fob? Mine does. Do you mean remote start?

There is something very satisfying in the way the CTS drives. Mine is also about as solid as the day I drove it home in December of 2004. And its design is a source of continuing pride and delight to me. As you say, the interior has been written on and I can't add anything to the debate. But the exterior design is, to my eyes, simply beautiful. It still turns heads after over 6 years on the road. It is my belief that the 2003-2007 CTS will go down in history as the water-shed design that it is, and good examples will be sought by collectors. As wonderful as the 2008 model is, I don't think it will stand-out over time. I feel almost priviliged to have had 2 CTS's. (I had one of the first ones off the truck in March of 2002. When that lease expired, I tried like hell to fall in love with the then-new STS. But that car left me completely cold so I took another CTS.)

I spent some time with a Cadillac dealer this past Saturday. I drove a 2008 and it is positively exquisite. Prices have risen. My '05 is a fully loaded car and stickered at $44K. To get a RWD 2008 of the same level, would set me back $47K. On the other hand, the comparison isn't completely fair either. The new car offers alot more even at that price.

And like you, I need to be careful with the $ these days.

Has anyone driven that new Malibu................................?

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Re: Missing My CTS: Some Observations

Nice comparo, and I agree with many of your points, but I had to giggle about this:

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-Third cup holder...I thought two were great, but having three is amazing.
Maybe it's just the fact that I've never had the luxury of a third cup-holder (hell, my BMW somehow manages to get by without any), but I find myself thinking of a third cupholder as not only superfluous, but bordering upon the ridiculous. I keep imagining all kinds of cartoonish scenarios on how the designers came to the conclusion that 2 cupholders simply was not enough.
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Re: Missing My CTS: Some Observations

Instead of buying a new car, why not look for something slightly used? For the price of a new Altima, you could have another CTS. Possibly even an '08; some people get a new car yearly and many of the first '08 CTS' (GM executive cars, for example) will soon be reappearing on dealer lots.
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Re: Missing My CTS: Some Observations

Damn Hitch what happened to the Ride?
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