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Old 05-18-04, 12:56 AM
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Re: CTS in Chrysler 300 Ad

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From what I understand the 300 is on the MBZ E class chassis. The interior (and well exterior styling too) is a love/hate thing much like the CTS.

I have driven a (fully loaded with 4 ppl) 300c and a stripped 3.6 CTS (again fully loaded with 4 ppl) back to back on the same Chrysler test drive course. The 300c feels bigger (bc it is! - MUCH), the ride is smoother (more of a comfy cruiser), the CTS feels sportier, handles considerably better (perormance oriented), and doesn't feel significantly less powerful bc the power comes on MUCH earlier (IMHO).

I have not driven the V6 300 to compare.

Does it count that I drove my CTS-V to and from this event? I would not put the CTS-V inot any of these comparos.

I find it VERY hard to compare these 2 cars on anything other than price, have similar displacement (in V6 trim), and they are 5 person 4 door automobiles. You could just as ealisy compare the CTS to a Avalon or the like.
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Re: CTS in Chrysler 300 Ad

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From what I understand the 300 is on the MBZ E class chassis.

I find it VERY hard to compare these 2 cars on anything other than price
Good points! That's probably what the commercial was trying to get across, meaning, the 300 is more of a Deville, full-size, family hauler. the CTS IS much smaller! It's a simple fact.
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Re: CTS in Chrysler 300 Ad

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The V6 in the 300/Touring/Limited is a 3.5 L High Output SOHC 24 valve SMPI rated at 250 hp @6400 rpm, and 250 lb-ft of torque @ 3800 rpm.
The Chrysler 3.5L sucks. It's got a horrible power band, and anything over 3500lbs just chugs along with it inside. The CTS has 255hp.
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Re: CTS in Chrysler 300 Ad

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The Chrysler 3.5L sucks. It's got a horrible power band, and anything over 3500lbs just chugs along with it inside. The CTS has 255hp.
There are a couple of things I'd like to know. (sorry I don't spend too much time in the CTS forum)

1. The CTS's torque, and weight.
2. The 300's weight. The Chrysler brochure makes no mention of it.

I'm pretty impressed by any V6 that gets that kind of power, and I'm more than sure the Cadillacs V6 is more refined.

Goth: The hemi beats a Northstar in power.
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Re: CTS in Chrysler 300 Ad

I really like the styling of the Chrysler 300 - it's like the poor man's Bentley.

Don't get all worked up. Considering that I bought a CTS, I think that my actions have proven that, for me, when choosing between a 300 and a CTS - there is no choice.
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Re: CTS in Chrysler 300 Ad

Weight, according to Chrysler comparison chart.

CTS-V 3850 CTS 3509 300C 4018

I like my CTS and I like the 300C, so I bought a 300C. When I get the 300C I'll have to decide which vehicle to drive, CTS-300C-Harley. Life is full of so many decisions.
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Re: CTS in Chrysler 300 Ad

Drove the 300C Hemi. Very nice car and very fast. Loaded, including Nav and sunroof, about $36-37k. So I said to my wife maybe I'd get it for her. She said I told her I'd NEVER again buy another Chrysler after our Town and Country minivan in which I have replaced almost every major part and a slew of minor parts that nickel and dime me to death! Thank God my wife brought me back to reality.
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Re: CTS in Chrysler 300 Ad

I love the look of the 300C, looks like a chopped hot rod. I test drove the hemi, and that is one sweet engine. However, the car overall just felt very big, much bigger then my current STS.

Not that it handled poorly, and generally I like bigger cars. This just was not my type of ride, although I doubt Chrysler will have any problem selling them.
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Re: CTS in Chrysler 300 Ad

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There are a couple of things I'd like to know. (sorry I don't spend too much time in the CTS forum)

1. The CTS's torque, and weight.
2. The 300's weight. The Chrysler brochure makes no mention of it.

I'm pretty impressed by any V6 that gets that kind of power, and I'm more than sure the Cadillacs V6 is more refined.

Goth: The hemi beats a Northstar in power.
3.6l v6 in cts is rated 252lbft and 90% of it is available from 1600rpm ~ 5800rpm

edit: it will be an interesting match between the new sts w/new northstar v8 and the hemi powered 300c on the highway. (from stop nothing beats torque and hemi v8 has plenty of it)
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Re: CTS in Chrysler 300 Ad

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Weight, according to Chrysler comparison chart.

CTS-V 3850 CTS 3509 300C 4018

I like my CTS and I like the 300C, so I bought a 300C. When I get the 300C I'll have to decide which vehicle to drive, CTS-300C-Harley. Life is full of so many decisions.
Thanks for the numbers info guys! So I guess the 300 does compare more to a Deville than anything. Sounds like Chrysler was "pickng on the little Caddy" in this commercial.
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