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Old 05-07-03, 01:18 AM
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The problem with sharing platforms with Chevys is that you will always be constrained to a price point within some modest increment above the Chevy price tag, and that's not the territory Cadillac should be in if they're going to live up to their goals.

The Cimarron was not a bad car. It was a so-so car - a Cavalier with leather upholstery. It was, however, grossly underpowered in its original form, and it was always grossly overpriced. And, because there wasn't sufficient content in the car to justify that pricetag, it was a very poor Cadillac.

The LS6 is very definitely the right engine for the CTSv, above and beyond the fact that it just works, because Cadillac needs that Corvette 'halo' for their performance models.

The bellhousing and transmission setup in the CTSv is closer to the Camarobird or the Australian Holdens - it may, in fact, borrow most of the hardware from one of those applications. Any word whether the CTSv has an hydraulically-operated clutch?
i thought it was using t56 tremac which is shared by z06/cobra/viper.
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Old 05-08-03, 02:31 AM
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'Yes, the Viper and the '03 Cobra use T56s, but they're far from the only ones. The Corvette uses a repackaged T56 in a transaxle configuration.

The T56 was used in the Camarobird for a number of years (since '95?), it's also been used in all the V8/manual transmission Holden sedans and coupes since the mid '90s.

Ford is using the T56 in the new 'cheap' Aston Martin, in this case with a Tremec-developed clutchless-sequential shift package. This will also be going into the '05 Cobra.
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The T56 was used in the Camarobird for a number of years (since '95?), it's also been used in all the V8/manual transmission Holden sedans and coupes since the mid '90s.
'93 was the first year for the T56 in the Camaro/Firebuzzard, I think it was in the Corvette in '92. The Tremec is a newer version of the original T56 that is supposedly more rugged and apparently built in Mexico, I think they switched to it in like 1998 or so in the Fbody cars...
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They all use customized t56 tremec. But the base of it is same isn't it?
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The T56 was developed by Borg-Warner (BW Automotive). BW also did the T5, T45, etc.

Tremec (it's a company, not a transmission) bought the rights to the T56 and all the other BW transmissions and moved production to Mexico. They do the T5, the T45, the T3550/TKO, T3650, etc. (and probably others that don't come immediately to mind) for various OEM and aftermarket applications.

The Corvette piece is probably the most 'customized' because of the transaxle mounting. The new Aston Martin/'05 Cobra piece has the SMG hardware, which makes for some differences.

There are different gear-ratio combinations available (the Viper gets the tallest first gear so as not to have its big torque-monster V10 busting transmissions) as well as different shifter locations/orientations. There are aftermarket versions for Ford Mustang retrofit and other 'universal' installations.
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Re: Re: Re: V-Series Article

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We're talkin' about Cadillacs here! Cimmarron was a Cadillac like Escalade is a Cadillac.........NOT!
Hey hey now, what is not Cadillac about an Escalade? The Cimmaron was a SMALL V6 rebadged Cavalier. There is NO Cadillac in that! The NEW Escalade (which is what I'm talking about, not the old one) is ALL Cadillac. To me, besides its truck platform, it is more CADILLAC than a DeVille. It A)is BIG B)it has a 360+ somthin Cubic inch PUSHROD engine (very Cadillac like) C)it excells in straight line performance, D)Its not FWD, it is RWD or AWD, and E)Unlike the CTS, it has a bigger engine than its Lincoln competitor, and is faster. The Cimmaron is NONE of that. Escalade is ALL Cadillac, Cimmaron is not. Besides, if it wasn't for the Escalade, then kids would still be thinking Cadillac made geezer cars and the CTS was for the hyperactive geezer, not an entry-level BMW beater. When they heard that, they'd laugh their @$$ off. The Escalade helped not only its own sales, but other Cadillacs too. The Escalade was a big accomplishment, it helped to bring Cadillac sales up and change its image for the GOOD. Cimmaron changed Cadillac's image for the BAD. VERY DIFFERENT CARS!!!!!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: V-Series Article

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Hey hey now, what is not Cadillac about an Escalade? The Cimmaron was a SMALL V6 rebadged Cavalier. There is NO Cadillac in that! The NEW Escalade (which is what I'm talking about, not the old one) is ALL Cadillac. To me, besides its truck platform, it is more CADILLAC than a DeVille. It A)is BIG B)it has a 360+ somthin Cubic inch PUSHROD engine (very Cadillac like) C)it excells in straight line performance, D)Its not FWD, it is RWD or AWD, and E)Unlike the CTS, it has a bigger engine than its Lincoln competitor, and is faster. The Cimmaron is NONE of that. Escalade is ALL Cadillac, Cimmaron is not. Besides, if it wasn't for the Escalade, then kids would still be thinking Cadillac made geezer cars and the CTS was for the hyperactive geezer, not an entry-level BMW beater. When they heard that, they'd laugh their @$$ off. The Escalade helped not only its own sales, but other Cadillacs too. The Escalade was a big accomplishment, it helped to bring Cadillac sales up and change its image for the GOOD. Cimmaron changed Cadillac's image for the BAD. VERY DIFFERENT CARS!!!!!
I'm not really a fan of the Escalade, but I gotta agree with that statement
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