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03-22-06, 03:20 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS 3.6L, 2006 350Z, Ducati 996s | | | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... Quote: |
Originally Posted by RobertCTS With age comes wisdom GRASSHOPPER It's why I know more than you  | Remember tho, knowledge doesn't neccerily induce wisdom :P and according to Ody's post, he agrees with me  Remember guys, were talking ONLY the 3.2L manual 5speed with volant/corsa versus a stock 3.6L.
Bob, you have the volant and corsa IIRC, plus the headers/cat combo (soon?)...that makes it a whole different box of wheaties. | 
03-22-06, 03:44 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners 10000+ Posts Cadillac(s): Black the Darkside | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Central Ohio | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... Quote: |
Originally Posted by AznPrydeRegalRyde Remember tho, knowledge doesn't neccerily induce wisdom :P and according to Ody's post, he agrees with me  Remember guys, were talking ONLY the 3.2L manual 5speed with volant/corsa versus a stock 3.6L.
Bob, you have the volant and corsa IIRC, plus the headers/cat combo (soon?)...that makes it a whole different box of wheaties. | I think you have to agree that virtually every day you learn something new. Heck, I learn something new everyday from this forum. For years people have sought the wisdom of their elders..some societies more than others.
Don't stretch me into those ethnic zones again or I will get in trouble.
Whats a IIRC? and I have one?  | 
03-22-06, 03:50 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS 3.6L, 2006 350Z, Ducati 996s | | | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... Quote: |
Originally Posted by RobertCTS I think you have to agree that virtually every day you learn something new. Heck, I learn something new everyday from this forum. For years people have sought the wisdom of their elders..some societies more than others.
Don't stretch me into those ethnic zones again or I will get in trouble.
Whats a IIRC? and I have one?  | Oh yeah, I totally agree, my grandfather is the most reverred person in my books. Brilliant fellow. And I've never seen anyone respond to cituations as smartly as him.
I was just  , my bad.
IIRC? 'If I remeber correctly'. I can't believe I'm using internet-lingo now... | 
03-22-06, 03:59 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners 10000+ Posts Cadillac(s): Black the Darkside | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Central Ohio | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... Quote: |
Originally Posted by AznPrydeRegalRyde Oh yeah, I totally agree, my grandfather is the most reverred person in my books. Brilliant fellow. And I've never seen anyone respond to cituations as smartly as him.
I was just  , my bad.
IIRC? 'If I remeber correctly'. I can't believe I'm using internet-lingo now... | Come on Regal,
That doesn't make sense. I want to learn something today. IIRC?
I just googled it. I did realize that was it. I thought you couldn't remember correctly  Major stupid attack! | 
03-22-06, 07:17 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: nor-cal | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... Robert, I see you noticed the distance detail, just trying to keep you in "hot water" | 
03-22-06, 08:12 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 03' CTS..06' STS...99' Escalade | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Age: 40 | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... I would actually like to race a member here in socal with a 3.6l modded or not CTS, against my 5speed manual '03 3.2l. Anyone up for a late night freeway or street drive. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2219655 | 
03-22-06, 08:43 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners 10000+ Posts Cadillac(s): Black the Darkside | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Central Ohio | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... Quote: |
Originally Posted by xcorpion1969 I would actually like to race a member here in socal with a 3.6l modded or not CTS, against my 5speed manual '03 3.2l. Anyone up for a late night freeway or street drive. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2219655 | Hmmm..another challenge on the Table! SDM or PJ?  | 
03-22-06, 10:46 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 2003 CTS | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Indio, Ca. | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... I'm in with my 03 3.2, volant and B&B exhuast. We need a meet to find out.  | 
03-22-06, 11:19 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2005 Black Raven CTS 1SB, Luxury and Sport packages | | | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... The 3.2L engine was nearly a full second slower in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times in a bunch of the magazine reviews, even comparing the manual on the 3.2L and the automatic on the 3.6L.
The 3.6L engine with automatic had:
6.4-6.6 second 0-60
14.92-14.99 1/4 mile
The 3.2L engine with manual had:
7.3-7.53 0-60
15.7-15.88 1/4 mile
Then there's this article that describes the negligible gains from intake and exhaust on the 3.2L engine. http://www.motortrend.com/features/p..._cadillac_cts/
"The upgrades team to deliver a claimed 20-hp gain and yield a decidedly more aggressive sound. It's still no powerhouse, but the engine mods improve 0-60 acceleration by 0.12 sec and lop 0.14 sec from the quarter mile."
My money is on the stock 3.6L. | 
03-22-06, 11:41 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): Blue CTS 2003 5-speed MT | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Montreal Age: 45 | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... Quote: |
Originally Posted by RobertCTS Would never happen. The HP loss of the 5spd auto is 20% versus the 17% of the manual. 3% would never make up the HP difference. | Thanks for shattering my illusion
Ok at least I can take a 3.2 AT, or your 3.6 with a banana up your Corsa
-GT | 
03-22-06, 11:52 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 08 CTS, 3.6DI, Y43, PDR | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Suamico WI | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... Quote: |
Originally Posted by AznPrydeRegalRyde FZ1? My GF has an FZ1. Men ride R1's  | People who like cheap insurance, and who have lot's of other toys ride FZ1's. Only a couple of HP less than an R1, and most of the kiddie crotch-rocket riders can't keep up with me anyway when the road gets twisty...so why do I need all the plastic? | 
03-23-06, 02:11 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Member | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: nor-cal | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... Regarding the above article posted by skepticman, It is not clear if that CTS is auto or manual and the 20" wheels are a big power zapper. I am sticking to my guns that a 3.2 MANUAL w/out 20" wheels will keep up with or maybe even pull a 3.6 auto. Now a 3.2 with mods against stock 3.6 auto with 20's, no contest,I would put my money on the 3.2. | 
03-23-06, 05:36 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners 10000+ Posts Cadillac(s): Black the Darkside | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Central Ohio | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... Quote: |
Originally Posted by FastCTS I'm in with my 03 3.2, volant and B&B exhuast. We need a meet to find out.  | So FastCTS,
What do you think of the B&B? You're the first I've known to install one. Billy Boat has some sound bites but what are your thoughts? | 
03-23-06, 11:53 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 2003 CTS | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Indio, Ca. | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... I got my 03 CTS in Nov. 02 and installed the Volant/B&B in Jan. 03. I'm happy with both. I had "Muscle Cars" in the 50's & 60's and the CTS now sounds like those cars. I'm still a "Lead Foot" and every time I hit it I get heads turning. It might be too loud for some, but I like it. 
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03-23-06, 11:57 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners 10000+ Posts Cadillac(s): Black the Darkside | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Central Ohio | | | Re: 03 CTS 3.2L vs. 06 CTS 3.6L.... Quote: |
Originally Posted by okiwont Regarding the above article posted by skepticman, It is not clear if that CTS is auto or manual and the 20" wheels are a big power zapper. I am sticking to my guns that a 3.2 MANUAL w/out 20" wheels will keep up with or maybe even pull a 3.6 auto. Now a 3.2 with mods against stock 3.6 auto with 20's, no contest,I would put my money on the 3.2. | Okiwont,
You're beginning to sound like Yo Momma in the other thread. We should start our own PINKS!  | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | |
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