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10-05-05, 01:33 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2003 Cadillac CTS | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Age: 28 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by IHIeiniken Ghetto Riggers VS. The Money Makers
Let the battles begin! haha | LOL!!!    | 
10-05-05, 01:09 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: st clair shores, MI Age: 28 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge my money is on the volant also...watch--it's gonna be the k&n...maybe i should wait until we dyno to sell it...use it as a selling point if it pulls out ahead... | 
10-05-05, 02:38 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners 10000+ Posts Cadillac(s): Black the Darkside | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Central Ohio | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by TripleOught my money is on the volant also...watch--it's gonna be the k&n...maybe i should wait until we dyno to sell it...use it as a selling point if it pulls out ahead... | Maybe this is an opportunity to make some Forum bet$ as to which intake wins.
Instead on money, maybe it could be Happy Meals!  | 
10-05-05, 11:21 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Member | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NorCal Age: 22 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by RobertCTS Maybe this is an opportunity to make some Forum bet$ as to which intake wins.
Instead on money, maybe it could be Happy Meals!  | and have a horsepower spread instead of a point spread.  | 
10-07-05, 12:14 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: TX | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge cant wait to see the result.. when will it be done?? | 
10-07-05, 03:50 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Member | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NorCal Age: 22 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge After all the bets are in of course!!!
hahaha i crack myself up.  | 
10-07-05, 06:16 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2003 Cadillac CTS | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Age: 28 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Ok, whos gonna be the first to put thier money...er..happy meals where their mouth is?!
Man that was lame....  | 
10-07-05, 08:25 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: st clair shores, MI Age: 28 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge 1. volant
2.25 HP spread
2. k&n
1.25 HP spread
3. tonya
i got 3 happy meals on it
i hate to put the tonya last, but i think the ram cones yield more HP...hope i'm wrong, but i do have a volant, so i hope i'm not THAT wrong... | 
10-16-05, 01:33 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Member | | | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Guys
I have been watching this for quite a while and thought that its about time to say something. My intake was the only one that opened the outside air in the lower grille.
This can be used for all the intakes and that cooler outside air will definitely help the Volant and the K&N units. They didn't do that on their units but you guys can and it will reduce the air temp to the air flow sensor. Beside the decreased air restriction, the biggest help is the cooler air.
Two things you can do if you need more performance:
If you want to get less restriction with my intake just use a larger Air Hog filter as there is plenty of room on the baffle plate. That will give you MORE air flow with less restriction for the SAME price. I think you will enjoy the extra time working on your car etc.
Second, close the area off between the engine heat and the air intake with flexible rubber sheeting. This will assure that your intake air is the closest to the outside air at all times.
Have fun and enjoy your cars!!!
Tony A | 
10-16-05, 01:41 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2003 Cadillac CTS | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Age: 28 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by tonyabraham Guys
I have been watching this for quite a while and thought that its about time to say something. My intake was the only one that opened the outside air in the lower grille.
This can be used for all the intakes and that cooler outside air will definitely help the Volant and the K&N units. They didn't do that on their units but you guys can and it will reduce the air temp to the air flow sensor. Beside the decreased air restriction, the biggest help is the cooler air.
Two things you can do if you need more performance:
If you want to get less restriction with my intake just use a larger Air Hog filter as there is plenty of room on the baffle plate. That will give you MORE air flow with less restriction for the SAME price. I think you will enjoy the extra time working on your car etc.
Second, close the area off between the engine heat and the air intake with flexible rubber sheeting. This will assure that your intake air is the closest to the outside air at all times.
Have fun and enjoy your cars!!!
Tony A | Tony A -
Thanks for developing this mod for all of us who are too poor/cheap to buy units like the Volant or the K&N. RobertCTS and myself have both been looking into improving it further by adding a hose that would route air directly from the lower grill into the box, thus completely eliminating hot engine air plus potentially generating a true "ram-air" effect at speed. Have you looked into this sort of thing as well? We'll let you know how it turns out, and I'm betting 3 happy meals the TonyA whomps the Volant and the K&N!!! | 
10-16-05, 11:41 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: st clair shores, MI Age: 28 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by tonyabraham My intake was the only one that opened the outside air in the lower grille. | i used your intake for a few weeks and definitely though it was well worth the money. if i hadn't found the volant for a really good new used price i would probably still have the tonya mod in.
now, i can't really see how the volant doesn't do the same...the irregularly shaped "scoop" on the volant goes right through to the right side of the grill and takes cold air from the front of the car (after you cut a small hole in that thin mesh lining). isn't that right? with the tonya, there was just the large hole in the front that opened up to the back of the headlight assembly...am i wrong in that? i think the volant gets it's far share of cold are as well. as for the k&n, well that all hot engine air... | 
10-16-05, 11:50 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2003 Cadillac CTS | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Age: 28 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by TripleOught ...the irregularly shaped "scoop" on the volant goes right through to the right side of the grill and takes cold air from the front of the car (after you cut a small hole in that thin mesh lining). isn't that right?... | Just out of curiosity, does anyone have a picture of this "scoop" on the Volant and where it goes? I've never had the chance to look at one up close so its got me intrigued. | 
10-16-05, 06:06 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: st clair shores, MI Age: 28 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge i just sent this to another member...hopefully you have powerpoint... http://www.msu.edu/~cronkmic/Cutting.ppt | 
10-16-05, 08:51 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2003 Cadillac CTS | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Age: 28 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by TripleOught | Sweet man, thanks! Only now that I see it, I'm starting to second guess my bet...but I think the TonyA will still beat the K&N. If it doesnt, I'm claiming experimenter bias!!! | 
10-16-05, 09:59 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic | | | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by DDS rollin a CTS Sweet man, thanks! Only now that I see it, I'm starting to second guess my bet...but I think the TonyA will still beat the K&N. If it doesnt, I'm claiming experimenter bias!!! | Haha, experimenter bias? The K&N was my kit that I volunteered for the test, and I've even got it to come behind the Volant and TonyA...says something about the quality of the kit. On that note, the results should be coming out soon for the 3.6L. Can't wait. | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | |
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