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10-20-05, 08:48 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 93 Allante, 06 CTS | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orlando, FL | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge | 
10-20-05, 08:50 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2003 CTS Manual Trans., '93 STS | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Yorktown, VA Age: 47 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Correct me if I'm reading these wrong Scott, but my reading of the score on the first sheet shows max HP's:
Stock 220.2
TonyA 225.1 (+4.9 HP)
Volant 233.5 (+13.3 HP)
It looks like the K&N and the Volant have very similar curves, except for the jump at 5900.
What's with the dips between 4600 and 5900? What I find interesting is that the curves appear to be the same shape, with different offsets, meaning the HP gains are across the board, and not only at higher RPMs. | 
10-20-05, 08:54 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rhode Island | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge  Great job , but your work is not done . For all of us that are not car literate could you explain these results for us in more detail. Sorry missed the post with the written results . Sorry Robert the TonyA not much better than the original. Where is my happy meal? | 
10-20-05, 08:54 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2003 Cadillac CTS | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Age: 28 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge | 
10-20-05, 08:58 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2003 Cadillac CTS | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Age: 28 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by odysseus What's with the dips between 4600 and 5900? What I find interesting is that the curves appear to be the same shape, with different offsets, meaning the HP gains are across the board, and not only at higher RPMs. |  | 
10-20-05, 09:03 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland, OR | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by yomommas can you be thanked enough? | hey we had a great time today. I was very interesting. The dyno operator, Travis keep looking at the screen and saying, "that motors doing some srange stuff in there" | 
10-20-05, 09:12 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2003 Cadillac CTS | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Age: 28 | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by HaveBlue hey we had a great time today. I was very interesting. The dyno operator, Travis keep looking at the screen and saying, "that motors doing some srange stuff in there" |  You know you have something special if you can get someone who does dyno runs on a daily basis to make a comment like that! | 
10-20-05, 09:13 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland, OR | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by odysseus
What's with the dips between 4600 and 5900? What I find interesting is that the curves appear to be the same shape, with different offsets, meaning the HP gains are across the board, and not only at higher RPMs. | My SWAG is the dips have something to do with VVT. and yes the increases were definatley through out the RPM range. | 
10-20-05, 09:14 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland, OR | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by rich9426  Great job , but your work is not done . For all of us that are not car literate could you explain these results for us in more detail | buy a Volant | 
10-20-05, 09:16 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member | | | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge So in general, the K&N and Volant were identical as I predicted. | 
10-20-05, 09:20 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland, OR | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by MontySkull So in general, the K&N and Volant were identical as I predicted. | The Volant made about 2 HP on average better than the K&N thru the entire RPM range. I was surprised. The K&N has a bigger filter (more surface area)and with no box there is no chance of a bog due to pressure drop when the throttle opens. I really expected the K&N to do better. Again I think it's in the tube design. No contest on the noise factor though. | 
10-20-05, 09:29 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member | | | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge I don't mind the noise since it doesn't drone when cruising down the highway. | 
10-20-05, 09:30 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rhode Island | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge I already have a Volant installed in my 05' 3.6 and I think it is incredible . Already expected the answer you got . Thanks again , Rich Quote: |
Originally Posted by HaveBlue buy a Volant | | 
10-20-05, 09:30 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland, OR | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Quote: |
Originally Posted by MontySkull I don't mind the noise since it doesn't drone when cruising down the highway. | your golden then  | 
10-20-05, 09:46 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic | | | | | Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge Yeah, the K&N is incredibly noisy; I kind of like it, but I'm one of the younger guys so that might explain a bit. A five HP trade-off for noise levels...hmm.
But all things aside, HaveBlue, great job putting this experiment together; we're pioneering a track for all the future CTS owners to follow, I find that pretty awesome and humbling, and we owe you a lot of gratitude for your time and effort. I was honored to be a part of it. | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | |
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