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Cadillac CTS First Generation Forum - 2003 - 2007 Discussion, The Great Air Intake Challenge in Cadillac CTS Coupe, Sport Sedan and Sport Wagon Forums; HaveBlue and everyone involved, a great debt is owed to you all for giving up your time, money and parts ...
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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    HaveBlue and everyone involved, a great debt is owed to you all for giving up your time, money and parts to make this test happen. I have been following this thread since I bought my car and was eagerly awaiting the results. I am not sure that I am interested in spending the time or money to to get an 8-13hp gain - very nice test.

    MUCHOS KUDOS to you all... thanks.


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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    Correct me if I'm reading these wrong Scott, but my reading of the score on the first sheet shows max HP's:

    Stock 220.2
    TonyA 225.1 (+4.9 HP)
    Volant 233.5 (+13.3 HP)

    It looks like the K&N and the Volant have very similar curves, except for the jump at 5900.

    What's with the dips between 4600 and 5900? What I find interesting is that the curves appear to be the same shape, with different offsets, meaning the HP gains are across the board, and not only at higher RPMs.

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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    Great job , but your work is not done . For all of us that are not car literate could you explain these results for us in more detail. Sorry missed the post with the written results . Sorry Robert the TonyA not much better than the original. Where is my happy meal?

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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge



    Thank you so much HaveBlue!!! Now get those intakes back to Ody for "The Great Air Intake Challenge, Part Deux!"


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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by odysseus
    What's with the dips between 4600 and 5900? What I find interesting is that the curves appear to be the same shape, with different offsets, meaning the HP gains are across the board, and not only at higher RPMs.

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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by yomommas
    can you be thanked enough?
    hey we had a great time today. I was very interesting. The dyno operator, Travis keep looking at the screen and saying, "that motors doing some srange stuff in there"

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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by HaveBlue
    hey we had a great time today. I was very interesting. The dyno operator, Travis keep looking at the screen and saying, "that motors doing some srange stuff in there"
    You know you have something special if you can get someone who does dyno runs on a daily basis to make a comment like that!

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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by odysseus

    What's with the dips between 4600 and 5900? What I find interesting is that the curves appear to be the same shape, with different offsets, meaning the HP gains are across the board, and not only at higher RPMs.
    My SWAG is the dips have something to do with VVT. and yes the increases were definatley through out the RPM range.

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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by rich9426
    Great job , but your work is not done . For all of us that are not car literate could you explain these results for us in more detail
    buy a Volant

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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    So in general, the K&N and Volant were identical as I predicted.

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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by MontySkull
    So in general, the K&N and Volant were identical as I predicted.
    The Volant made about 2 HP on average better than the K&N thru the entire RPM range. I was surprised. The K&N has a bigger filter (more surface area)and with no box there is no chance of a bog due to pressure drop when the throttle opens. I really expected the K&N to do better. Again I think it's in the tube design. No contest on the noise factor though.

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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    I don't mind the noise since it doesn't drone when cruising down the highway.

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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    I already have a Volant installed in my 05' 3.6 and I think it is incredible . Already expected the answer you got . Thanks again , Rich
    Quote Originally Posted by HaveBlue
    buy a Volant

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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by MontySkull
    I don't mind the noise since it doesn't drone when cruising down the highway.
    your golden then

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    Re: The Great Air Intake Challenge

    Yeah, the K&N is incredibly noisy; I kind of like it, but I'm one of the younger guys so that might explain a bit. A five HP trade-off for noise levels...hmm.

    But all things aside, HaveBlue, great job putting this experiment together; we're pioneering a track for all the future CTS owners to follow, I find that pretty awesome and humbling, and we owe you a lot of gratitude for your time and effort. I was honored to be a part of it.

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