Cadillac CTS First Generation Forum - 2003 - 2007 Discussion, I think a V6 is a good idea for Cadillac in Cadillac CTS Coupe, Sport Sedan and Sport Wagon Forums; The I6 in the trailblazer would be perfect.
Cadillac is beginning to put displacemnt on demand, not on any current ...
A V-6 in a Cadillac? These are callad luxury cars for a reason! And the V-8 is a large part of that reason. The luxury of power on demand, When you need it! The rest of the time you pay a small premium for the LUXURY of it being there when you need or want it! A V-6 is working harder to pull the same car the same distance. It WILL wear out faster and you lose the LUXURY of long engine life! These cars are not built so that some guy that's worried about whether he can afford to pay the gas can look "BIG TIME" to his idiot friends! If you can not afford a LUXURY car....DO NOT BUY ONE! But don't ask that they cheapen the brand so that people without money can afford them! They Can't!!! THAT"S why they're LUXURY cars! It's a LUXURY that comes with success if you work hard and all goes well.....Then you too can afford to own a true luxury car. They make Cheesey Chevys, Buicks and Oldsmobiles with V-6's for those who want the nominal fuel savings combined with the lack of power associated with that choice. I do not think we need to repeat the debacle of crappy engines that we all had to deal with in the '80s and CHEAPEN the nameplate so that people that really can't afford them will buy them anyway!....Oh! I'm sorry, Do I sound like a snob? Too bad! I drive a luxury car 'cause I want and can afford luxury and I don't want to change because somebody else feels left out! That's how I feel about it! A V-6 In a Cadillac? NOT! In My garage!!
That is all true, fine and dandy, but ultimately its going to be what the market wants. If they want 6cy caddys, then that is what they will get. I would think that most people would want to get the 8cy, and most likely the dealer would push people to get the 8cy.
Yes, That's true! I find it interesting that we push the standards down....Then we're upset because standards are so low. I could see a reason to put an Inline 6 in a cadillac if it was shown to live up to the power requirements for a car this size/weight. Inline 6's tend to be torque monsters and that's a good thing and they can easily be made to perform remarkably well. V-6's on the other hand tend to be lacking in both torque and low end power making them unacceptable in my opinion for the performance required for a decent luxury car application.
Originally posted by kcnewell Oh! I'm sorry, Do I sound like a snob? Too bad! I drive a luxury car 'cause I want and can afford luxury and I don't want to change because somebody else feels left out! That's how I feel about it! A V-6 In a Cadillac? NOT! In My garage!!
A snob would say that America and Cadillac built it's last real luxury car before WWII. A snob looks at a front wheel drive car as something his maid drives. A snob would look down on the lowly V8 as something the middle class people purchase. Snobs beleive that only a 12 cylinder is worthy of a true luxury car.
Having been born quite a while after WWII I never had the chance to own or drive any of the fabulous cars that were around in those days. I only have the more recent past to draw from. I have driven V-12 Jaguars and I really like the feel and the power and would truly love it if we had something like that in the Cadillac line. I have for some time here been on record as only being interested in American vehicles Particularly Cadillacs and Harley Davidsons. Since Cadillac does not currently offer a V-12 I must be snobbish about the lowly V-8. I just can't see lowering the standards of an otherwise fine car with the gutless V-6. The V-6 is in my opinion the only real problem with the CTS other than the interior being a little cramped!
My thought is that a 6CY would be pointless, because it would either a) be not powerful enough and wear out quick, B) Be powerful enough (and would probably require premium), but consume as much fuel as the 8cy, or C) a combination thereof.
but are we even sure that the CTS is a pure luxury car? I view it more as a sporty midsize sedan with many ammenities. The 3-series, Audis, G35, and others don't have 8 cylinders under the hood but they are luxurious in nature. Maybe what we are want is a base CTS with a V8 sort of as the car that sticks out. But wait until the v-series hits the pavement. Then the M3 will raise an eyebrow, and the G35 Coupe and Audi S4 will be crying home to mama.
I hope that's the case! Although it's hard for me to get my arms around the idea of a sporty midsize sedan from a company like Cadillac! I will concede that I thought the Seville was a bad idea when they were first introduced. It took me a few years to accept them and now they're my favorite model. The V-6 is just too much though, Makes me think of that reworked Cavalier ( Can't even speak the name!) that they tried to pass off as a Cadillac in the '80s. The CTS is way too cramped inside to EVER be considered a pure luxury car and therein lies the problem. Cadillac is a luxury car and has some great luxury/performance models out there. The CTS seems to be a little far from the fray to qualify as either one.
Go sit in a CTS with a manual tranny. VERY VERY nice. I was at a Cadillac dealer in the Norfolk area and I begged the guy to let me drive it, but that was their only manual-equipped CTS and he wasn't going to pull it out of the showroom for a casual test drive. He said they couldn't keep their hands on these cars -- they're sold before they even sit a week!