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    Thumbs up 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    I wonder who would win a stick 3.6L CTS or a 3.5L Chrysler 300

    The 300 has 250HP at 6400 rpm
    The 3.6L CTS has 255HP at 6200 rpm

    It should be a good race.

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    Re: 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    I would have to say the 3.6 only because, in my mind, Chrysler has never recovered from their crappy image of the past. You couldn't give me a Chrysler!!! I was looking at a 300 today and it is a nice looking ride, really nice, but I am thinking the wheels will fall off or the thing will stall out only because it has the Chrysler name on it.

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    Re: 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    lol it's not even close. The CTS with the 3.6L matted to the 5 speed auto runs 14.9 in the 1/4. The 6 speed will do a bit better.

    the 300 with the 3.5L does 16.1 in the 1/4

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    I have a '05 CTS 3.5 auto and my son has the '05 300 3.5 auto - I beat him four out of four and won $10 on the 1st run. He would not put up any money after the 1st run

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    Re: 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    The 3.6 beats everything in it's class. I think the engine is under rated and puts out more than advertized. I really dislike the huge grill on the 300. I'd buy a Dodge Magnum first..w/Hemi.

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    Re: 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertCTS
    The 3.6 beats everything in it's class. I think the engine is under rated and puts out more than advertized. I really dislike the huge grill on the 300. I'd buy a Dodge Magnum first..w/Hemi.
    Unfortunately, I think the G35's 3.5L is faster, it makes 298hp
    The Acura TL makes 270hp, it may be faster too, but it's wrong wheel drive.

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    Re: 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon
    Unfortunately, I think the G35's 3.5L is faster, it makes 298hp
    The Acura TL makes 270hp, it may be faster too, but it's wrong wheel drive.
    I did say same class. Actually the CTS-V is fastest! Gothicaleigh did an indepth list of 0-60 and 1/4 mile times a while back. It would be interesting to pull that post back up.

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    Re: 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    I think the engine is under rated and puts out more than advertized.
    has any one dyno-ed a stock CTS with the 3.6....

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    Re: 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    Quote Originally Posted by joeyblaze
    has any one dyno-ed a stock CTS with the 3.6....
    That would be HP at the wheels. I don't think that's how GM does it.

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    Re: 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    That would be HP at the wheels. I don't think that's how GM does it.
    but from that u can work backwords and add in the lost HP from the drive train to get a rough HP at the crank

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    Re: 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    Quote Originally Posted by joeyblaze
    but from that u can work backwords and add in the lost HP from the drive train to get a rough HP at the crank
    I think we have a member that plans to do a "before and after" dyno by adding a Volant and Corsa Exhaust. I recall this was to be done this month but forget who was gonna do it.

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    Re: 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    The 300 with the 3.5L really is not a slow car, but one problem that has plagued it since its use in the last FWD 300M was the transmission. Not exactly a problematic piece, but known for sapping a TON of the power from the engine and not being the most efficient. I should know, since we used to have one--the engine really was great, but you could just tell it was being strangled by the old 4-spd. Back in '99 or '00, I remember even reading an article about how Chrysler engineers had gotten a ZF 5-spd auto and installed it in a 300M for testing and were amazed at how much it time it knocked off of acceleration tests and how much quicker the car felt altogether.

    With some modification, they were able to carry that same transmission over to the new RWD cars with the 3.5L and the power robbing issue remains. It's about to be remedied, as Chrysler will soon be dropping this 4-spd in the next few months and replacing it across the board with the MB-designed 5-spd currently only in Hemi and AWD cars.

    I was looking at a 300 today and it is a nice looking ride, really nice, but I am thinking the wheels will fall off or the thing will stall out only because it has the Chrysler name on it.
    That's a REALLY dumb comment and while Chrysler did have issues before, it was quite long ago--the 300, for example, is built like a tank and has had virtually no issues at all in its first model year. Furthermore, at least it doesn't eat a rear differential 2 or 3 times a year like a CTS does..... :rolleyes2

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    Re: 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    Furthermore, at least it doesn't eat a rear differential 2 or 3 times a year like a CTS does.....
    are cars really eat them that fast, or when u start to mod them?

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    Re: 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    Quote Originally Posted by joeyblaze
    are cars really eat them that fast, or when u start to mod them?
    My statement was based purely on the large amounts of owners in this own thread, most all with completely un-modded cars, who are on their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th rear differential. Not exactly a sign of high quality components, an argument I thought would be good to bring up when someone questioned the quality of a new Chrysler....

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    Re: 3.6L CTS vs 3.5L Chrysler 300

    Quote Originally Posted by caddycruiser
    My statement was based purely on the large amounts of owners in this own thread, most all with completely un-modded cars, who are on their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th rear differential. Not exactly a sign of high quality components, an argument I thought would be good to bring up when someone questioned the quality of a new Chrysler....
    I don't think this Forum is a fair representation or test of CTS differential failures. You only hear about individuals who have had problems. How many have experienced no problems? Seldom do inviduals post things that are working well. That would be like me starting a thread about the excellent performance of my alternator. I would get zero comments.

    I own a Dodge Magnum Hemi and 3.6 CTS and I think they are both well built cars and I have experienced not a single problem. Why are you in a CTS Forum when you don't own one and waving a Chrysler banner

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