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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    Now I know GM puts mobil 1 from the factory.. and they say to use synthetic.. but if I choose to say use Castrol GTX for oil changes... Im not voiding the warrantee.. am I?? GTX has worked fine for me for decades....

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    Yes you would have warranty problems if you used that oil, its not good enough. You must use synthetic oil.

    I don't think any of that brand meet the GM spec's. The GTX for sure doesn't because its not synthetic. I don't see Syntec list that spec on the data sheet either. Oils that meet the GM4718M spec will list it on the bottle.

    From the owners manual.

    GM4718M
    Your vehicle’s engine requires a special oil meeting
    GM Standard GM4718M. Oils meeting this
    standard may be identified as synthetic. However,
    not all synthetic oils will meet this GM standard.
    You should look for and use only an oil that meets
    GM Standard GM4718M.
    Notice: If you use oils that do not have the
    GM4718M Standard designation, you can cause
    engine damage not covered by your warranty.

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    Quote Originally Posted by Spyke View Post
    I know wal-mart regular sales for a 5L of mobil 1 is 38$ + tax. They only sale 5Liters no 4.4L. I go at the dealer for my oil filter: Ac Delco PF2129F.

    the car holds 5.7L of oil and for the drain plug, I do the same thing as you, I turn left the wheels so I can slip my arm throug there and take off the drain plug. No need to lift the car. For the oil filter, its on top of the engine, to his right side when stand in front of the vehicule. You can find some picture around here to see how 3.6L guys we change our oil filter.. very very easy, no mess, no drip, no burn at all!
    ya i know yours is right on top...luckey. that makes it sooo much easier.
    i cant believe yours holds 5.7L... thats a lotta oil.
    i thought walmart was more $ than that.. ima start just buyin mine there, 1 jug will do the change 4 me.

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    GM4718M is General Motors' High Performance engine oil specification. Oils which meet GM4718M tend to be made from synthetic base stocks, so it is often referred to as a "synthetic" specification.

    However, not all oils, synthetic or otherwise, are capable of meeting the stringent requirements of GM4718M.

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    Quote Originally Posted by Z71 View Post
    Yes you would have warranty problems if you used that oil, its not good enough. You must use synthetic oil.

    I don't think any of that brand meet the GM spec's. The GTX for sure doesn't because its not synthetic. I don't see Syntec list that spec on the data sheet either. Oils that meet the GM4718M spec will list it on the bottle.

    From the owners manual.
    Thank Z71 for the info... however .. practically speaking I highly doubt the GTX would not be good enough to properly lubricate the V6... but not worth taking chances...synthetic it is.....

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    This article was awesome, thanks! Just what I was looking for online. Here I am three years later in Sept 2008, and just as I am trying to do the change the first time myself on my 2004 and I found your pictorial. Mine still only has 12,500 miles on it, only driven on unsalted roads, never in snow. (It was a present to myself after a wedding was cancelled, I'm pretty fortunate and thankful that way).

    Best Regards,
    cam

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    Quote Originally Posted by tmtran44 View Post
    stupid question coming.... after the DIY oil change, does the computer automatically detects the new oil and change the specs to reflect the next oil change? thanks
    The computer doesn't know what you put in there it could be water, all it does is keep track of the way the car is driven. Milage temp starts and stops ect You have to reset the oil life yourself.

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    Excellent post, great pics, this will be a snap.

    Two questions:
    1) What does 'extra's' does the dealer do (I hear lube the chassis...are there many grease zerts that need serviced?)
    2) Will this in any way void my 100K Bumper-to-bumper warranty my previous owner was so gracious to purchase?

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    I attempted last weekend and it went ok. The freakin things were on there good, but I got a torque wrench and had to jack up the right side to get the angle I needed. It was pretty clean though which was great...

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    What about using a vacuum changer? Then you wouldnt even need to get under the car at all?

    like these

    http://www.amazon.com/tag/vacuum%20o...hanging%20pump

    i have a different model that sticks way down below into the oil pan, I am just wondering if I can get to the bottom of the oil pan through the dipstick tube.

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    I am needing help tried to change my oil this weekend and I can not get the oil filter canister lid off. It is on there. Any ideas on how to take it off. I don't want to break the brackets hole the canister my pushing to hard.

    I bought the car a week ago and now have found that the transmission is leaking from around the drive shaft. Cadillac said it would be 300.00 to replace the seals inside the housing.

    But anyway can anyone help with removing this lid?

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    I finally did it! It took a couple of attempts and the right combination of tools to get it done. I needed a 1/2 drive breaker bar and had to jack the right side of the car up a little bit to get the drain plug loose. Same problem with the oil filter canister. These things were on tight!! I had to use the breaker bar with a 1/2" drive 5" extension (I had a 3/8 drive ratchet and extension, but I wasn't getting enough ooomph out of it, so it required a trip to the hardware store). Once the filter canister finally budged, you could then unscrew it by hand.

    Should be a piece of cake next time; 15-20 minutes tops.

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    Apparently there are many people whose cars have the oil drain plug and filter housing torqued to an unbelievable degree. Me included. When I first tried to loosen both they Would. Not. Budge.

    To loosen the drain I wound up having to jack up the car high enough to get under there and, using an 18" breaker bar, apply a ton of pressure to get it loose.

    With the filter housing the breaker bar had to be deployed with both hands pulling. Finally broke loose. Oh, and don't wear a watch with a metal band, because when the housing finally broke loose my hands flew up against the fender edge, with my watch band scraping along the fender edge. Pissed me off.

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    Good reasons to always perform your own oil changes - it is less expensive, not that difficult and you won't over torque the drain plug or filter canister. The shop manual calls for light torque, but I have found that both the drain plug and filter canister have a hard stop after tightening. I simply stop trying to tighten once it hits the hard stop and find that I don't experience frozen or frustratingly tight plug and canister issues when needing to change oil the next time.

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    Re: 3.6L Oil Change Pictoral

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenno540 View Post
    Oh, and don't wear a watch with a metal band, because when the housing finally broke loose my hands flew up against the fender edge, with my watch band scraping along the fender edge. Pissed me off.
    this is why uncle sam bans us from wearing jewelry while working on million dollar jets. along with people losing fingers over there wedding ring getting caught somewhere it shouldnt be...

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