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    IF that was a Chrysler in the picture it might look halfway decent, but that is a Dodge Charger, and looks way too bedazzled for my taste. Cars don't look good with stuff stuck all over them, keep it simple, keep it clean....

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    I would never do that to my car because its not the look i would want. But whoever done that it was because it was the look they were wanting. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and when that guy/girl comes out to look at their car their smile alone could knock you down. I have thought about buying one of those just to see what i could do to it. Im satisfied with the cts and i am ready to move onto another project. I think its time fo rosie to have a make over. I dont loose sleep over the remarks and i wish everyone well with whatever they decide to do with their vehicle. I say go for it, live and learn.To accept criticism and handle it in a proper maner makes you a better person. Have a good day. P.S. i would say let your dad live his fantsy, he,s earned it.

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    You've been taking the criticism like a champ! Like I said in my first post. Nice work.

    Thoughts about the badges aside, the bottom line is you have one of the nicer looking packages that I've seen on here.

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    You've been taking the criticism like a champ! Like I said in my first post. Nice work.

    Thoughts about the badges aside, the bottom line is you have one of the nicer looking packages that I've seen on here.

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    J W, your rim selection is spot on. Nice large 5 spoke lookin rims always look great. No orange at the front = great. Exhaust tips aren't bad, the interior is pretty pimp, and its a nice look.

    The spoiler is definitely different. Can't say I like it, but I can see why others would.

    I've got that same bottom grill and I spray painted it black. If I was you, i'd at least paint the edges of the silver and paint that black, while keeping the mesh silver at least. I think it would solidify the bottom grill look much better.

    The V badges... yikes. This is what the guys in the V1 forum talk about constantly. The biggest downfall to your car are those badges. Fronting to be a V with badges = Not good. I know that may not have been your intent, but it will be seen as your intent by anyone looking at your car.

    I'm not a big fan of stickers on the car, fake vents, chrome autozone crap, and all that. I've mentioned that to the other guys when they joined here. The V emblems are hurting you. Otherwise, the car is damn near perfect.

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    I had thought about painting the chrome lip on the hood to solidify the look but i was worried about the paint peeling off. That is a good ideal i have seen it on several other cts's. I would first have to tape it off with black tape for a couple of days and see if its a look i would like to have. People are always going to have their opions. When i first got the car i added the spoiler and it seem like whenever i was at a red light someone wanted to race. Id let them speed off with a smile on their face. Yes some will probably think im fronting with the v badges but they did not buy the car for me. I think if i wanted the v look i would have kept the v mesh grill i had on it when i got the car.

    and maybe change the bumper out, stenciled the V logo on the calipers when i painted them, add some v floor mats, and when i had the head rest redone for the tvs i would have put CTS V instead of just cts. But thats not the look i was going for. I cannot satisfy other peoples quams over my badges for their well being. When i looked for wheels for my ext i was advised not to get them because they were usally on cars and would have to have them drilled for the truck.


    So i asked, are you volunteering to buy some wheels for me. Once i had them on there i was not really 100% with them. But it was not because of what i was told it was because of the look of the exposed calliper and drum. Black chassi paint took care of that and now i have compliments instead of complaints. I could have went with the usal 5 spoke rim but it was not what i was looking for. You see, some people are just judgemental. They size you up with one look. They usally are wrong most of the time. I never judge a book by its cover. In your opion the v badges are hurting me, but in my opion the v badges helped accomplish what i was looking for. So eventually the people who are loosing sleep and getting into a freenzy over "MY" badges will die down and move on to someone else. I dont mind someone saying what there opion of the badges are. But to get bent out of shape over it is a little extreme. Life is too short for that. I apreciate your compliments on the rest of the car. And your opion about the badges. But the badges will stay unless god himself ask me to remove them. Have a good evening.
    Quote Originally Posted by odthetruth View Post
    J W, your rim selection is spot on. Nice large 5 spoke lookin rims always look great. No orange at the front = great. Exhaust tips aren't bad, the interior is pretty pimp, and its a nice look.

    The spoiler is definitely different. Can't say I like it, but I can see why others would.

    I've got that same bottom grill and I spray painted it black. If I was you, i'd at least paint the edges of the silver and paint that black, while keeping the mesh silver at least. I think it would solidify the bottom grill look much better.

    The V badges... yikes. This is what the guys in the V1 forum talk about constantly. The biggest downfall to your car are those badges. Fronting to be a V with badges = Not good. I know that may not have been your intent, but it will be seen as your intent by anyone looking at your car.

    I'm not a big fan of stickers on the car, fake vents, chrome autozone crap, and all that. I've mentioned that to the other guys when they joined here. The V emblems are hurting you. Otherwise, the car is damn near perfect.

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    JW, What kind (brand) of wheels are those on your EXT? Those are soooo cool! never seen anything close to them.
    I know everyone critisizes my car but i like it the way it is. So my opinion may not be the same as most but I like those wheels!!

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    They are status wheels. I had seen a couple of other brands with somewhat the same style with little differences here and ther. But i settled on these.Thanks forthe thumbs up.

    Quote Originally Posted by carrnuttdave View Post
    JW, What kind (brand) of wheels are those on your EXT? Those are soooo cool! never seen anything close to them.
    I know everyone critisizes my car but i like it the way it is. So my opinion may not be the same as most but I like those wheels!!

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    IMO, putting a V bumper or side skirts or exhaust etc...isn't being a poser or tyring to pretend you have a V. It's done for appearance or performance. Putting a V badge on your non-V does neither. It just tries to "fool" folks into thinking you have a V when you really don't. Why not just put a crossed checkered flag badge on? Would you put a cobra badge on a stock stang?
    But hey, it's your car...do with it as you please. To each his own right?

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    I always looked at the v badge as a cadillac emblem. If you seen it on a dodge you would say thats off a cadillac, or some would say its off a cadillac v. But you would have to have some knowldge of cadillac to reconize that. As you said, v bumper, side skirts, etc.. is for appearence for some and for me its the badge that adds the accent i wanted. If someone looked at a stock cts head on that had its bumper changed to a v bumper they would think its a CTS V. It would not be until they walked around the car and realized it was not. They would think its some one trying to have the V look no knowing the person had just changed the bumper for appearence reasons. So would you acuse the owner of the cts of trying to fool someone into thinking they have the v? If you were to read my replies i never claimed someone changing their bumpers or side skirts were trying to be posers. I believe they did it because they wanted a certain look. What i did say was, me personally, thought it was the same. A crossed checkered flag is not a cadillac emblem. If i were into fords and had a stock stang that i was working on and the cobra badge gave it the look i wanted it would be on there. Its not like i would take my sls and put STS or DTS on it because i would still end up with three chrome letters. At first i tried the CTS letters on the fenders but it did no bring it together like i wanted. As i searched the cadillac emblems it was the v badge that did it for me. As you stated in the begining of your reply "IMO" you are right, it is your opion, and of course IMO the badges stay because like you said to each his/her own. Have a good evening.
    Quote Originally Posted by ProudCaddyDaddy View Post
    IMO, putting a V bumper or side skirts or exhaust etc...isn't being a poser or tyring to pretend you have a V. It's done for appearance or performance. Putting a V badge on your non-V does neither. It just tries to "fool" folks into thinking you have a V when you really don't. Why not just put a crossed checkered flag badge on? Would you put a cobra badge on a stock stang?
    But hey, it's your car...do with it as you please. To each his own right?

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    I think when it comes to side skirts, etc... it adds an accent. I think when it comes to badges, it adds a brand. And its a brand you don't own, IMO.
    I don't have a V bumper, nor a V grill. Nor V skirts, Nor V anythings. I have everything that came from a Sport appearance package CTS V6. Thats it.

    If the "look you are looking for" is the appearance of having a car $10k+ more expensive, with over 100hp+ stock... then you pulled it off with the V badge.

    I understand you are going for your own look, but posting that, here, where everyones going to give you a hard time about it (because the general consensus agrees that badging a V6 as a V is wrong), all the arguing about it in the world won't change everyone's mind.

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    I think and know with out the badges the car has pulled off the look for the horsepower and the price. But thats was not was i was shooting for. . I have been offered more than 10k for it before the badges. But the badges are my personal touch. If people on here want to give me a hard time for it then thats there choice. Afther all this is a forum. But also by this being a forum and being a cadillac forum then i too sholud be able to post pictures of my cadillac. If i wanted to put a set of bull horns on it like they use to do the older caddies i guess i would get a lot of slack about me trying to potray my car as a bull, cow, reindeer, etc.... Who knows go figure. Never the less its useless to waste so many pages on this badge topic when we allready know that there are a lot who feel the badges should not be on there. Of course there are a lot of people who feel it should not matter. You kept your car stock because that how you like to see your car and that was a choice you were entitled to. When ever you start changing things on your vehicle that was not originally on there you are turning itinto something it was not originally. I had a 78 transam when i was younger, it was stock with a 400 engine and positrack rear. I only know this because i was told . Im not a engine performance type person. Anyway a frind of mine wanted to to tinker with it. He had a 70 or 71 camaro he use to race but wrecked. He wanted to modify my T/A. I let him. He put the engine and transmission from his car into mine. Now i had a stock T/A with a 454 engine and a transmision with a slip kit. Whatever that is. Never the less you could feel the body twisting if you really step on it and could here the tires squeal when it shifted. This car was a automatic. So what im getting at is should i have put a camaro badge on it so i would not be betraying its as a T/A anymore. Because clearly the car was not the same car it use to be. Maybe those who do feel the way they do about the badges should start a petition with GM to not sell the badges to anyone unless they have a title in there name showing they own a V. See how long you they are on hold for that petition. Daniel Akerson himself could email or call me and say, hey JW you need to take them v badges off, And i would just simply reply to him that there are more important issues then my badges that his company sold me. Yes they were purchased from a GM dealer. Thanks for you concern about the hard time some people are giving me over the badges but i kinda enjoy responding to them to let them know there tunnel vision on this matter is not really necessary. As always, have a good evening.
    Quote Originally Posted by odthetruth View Post
    I think when it comes to side skirts, etc... it adds an accent. I think when it comes to badges, it adds a brand. And its a brand you don't own, IMO.
    I don't have a V bumper, nor a V grill. Nor V skirts, Nor V anythings. I have everything that came from a Sport appearance package CTS V6. Thats it.

    If the "look you are looking for" is the appearance of having a car $10k+ more expensive, with over 100hp+ stock... then you pulled it off with the V badge.

    I understand you are going for your own look, but posting that, here, where everyones going to give you a hard time about it (because the general consensus agrees that badging a V6 as a V is wrong), all the arguing about it in the world won't change everyone's mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J W View Post
    Thats just my 2 1/2 cents.
    More like your 2 1/2 thousand dollars. Can we open J W his own section of the forum? He has quite a bit to say

    Bro, respect for all the material you have for retort, but it all boils down to this. This is a no win debate. This will have to be left at a difference of opinion.

    Mods...can we make a new sticky titled "Take a Beating for your V Badges Here!" so we can keep the V badge debate in one place?


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    Thank you and point taken. I would never take them off because of someones elses opion unless it was something i did and it was brought to my attention that a saftey hazzard might exist. I have seen it before on this forum where a person got slammed because of the badges. I like this forum because of all the good information it has on it. Ive owned cadillacs even before i had a license. If i get a certain look i want i research it to see if its fesible and then i go for it at what ever cost. Im not a performance or suspension modify person. I like to keep them thems stock. Unless it time to replace pads or shocks then i do upgrade. Ive seen cars on here that made me wonder what planet they were from. But if it makes them sattisified when they come out to look at there car then thats all thats matter. I believe in telling someone who ask for a opinion about a mode what you think. But to me thats as far as it goes, the person can either accept your opinion or go in thier own direction. Cadillac would have never made the cts if they listened to a lot of people who said they should just stick to luxury cars. But never theless its all good and it takes more than comments about emblems to ruffle my feathers. You have a good day.
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    Yeah i have seen posers and i do not fall into that category. If you ask me if my car is a v i will tell you no, if you want to race because you think its a v the answer is no. Im a pretty straight up person who if i did not know you i would not flat out call you a liar. Anyone whos knows me knows that having a v is something i could do before you got dressed in the morning. I dont track cars, race cars or live where i can stretch one out to 160+ and not pose harm to other drivers. So why have a a caged high performance car. Thats just not right to me. But to some its all about having one sit in their drive way. And if thats what they want to do with their money then thats their choice. No badge will ever truly tell whats under someones hood. The v may stand for a powerful v8 under the hood but how powerful is not known unless you are told or get a look under the hood. The v6 is not the v8 but it is a very powerful engine for its size. If you pulled up next to a 2010 ctsv not knowing it was the hennessey v, you would assume it had 556hp under the hood. With that assumption you would be off 144+ HP. Thats just my 2 1/2 cents.
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    Thank you and point taken. I would never take them off because of someones elses opion unless it was something i did and it was brought to my attention that a saftey hazzard might exist. I have seen it before on this forum where a person got slammed because of the badges. I like this forum because of all the good information it has on it. Ive owned cadillacs even before i had a license. If i get a certain look i want i research it to see if its fesible and then i go for it at what ever cost. Im not a performance or suspension modify person. I like to keep them thems stock. Unless it time to replace pads or shocks then i do upgrade. Ive seen cars on here that made me wonder what planet they were from. But if it makes them sattisified when they come out to look at there car then thats all thats matter. I believe in telling someone who ask for a opinion about a mode what you think. But to me thats as far as it goes, the person can either accept your opinion or go in thier own direction. Cadillac would have never made the cts if they listened to a lot of people who said they should just stick to luxury cars. But never theless its all good and it takes more than comments about emblems to ruffle my feathers. You have a good day.
    Quote Originally Posted by J W View Post
    Yeah i have seen posers and i do not fall into that category. If you ask me if my car is a v i will tell you no, if you want to race because you think its a v the answer is no. Im a pretty straight up person who if i did not know you i would not flat out call you a liar. Anyone whos knows me knows that having a v is something i could do before you got dressed in the morning. I dont track cars, race cars or live where i can stretch one out to 160+ and not pose harm to other drivers. So why have a a caged high performance car. Thats just not right to me. But to some its all about having one sit in their drive way. And if thats what they want to do with their money then thats their choice. No badge will ever truly tell whats under someones hood. The v may stand for a powerful v8 under the hood but how powerful is not known unless you are told or get a look under the hood. The v6 is not the v8 but it is a very powerful engine for its size. If you pulled up next to a 2010 ctsv not knowing it was the hennessey v, you would assume it had 556hp under the hood. With that assumption you would be off 144+ HP. Thats just my 2 1/2 cents.
    Quote Originally Posted by J W View Post
    I would never do that to my car because its not the look i would want. But whoever done that it was because it was the look they were wanting. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and when that guy/girl comes out to look at their car their smile alone could knock you down. I have thought about buying one of those just to see what i could do to it. Im satisfied with the cts and i am ready to move onto another project. I think its time fo rosie to have a make over. I dont loose sleep over the remarks and i wish everyone well with whatever they decide to do with their vehicle. I say go for it, live and learn.To accept criticism and handle it in a proper maner makes you a better person. Have a good day. P.S. i would say let your dad live his fantsy, he,s earned it.
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    I had thought about painting the chrome lip on the hood to solidify the look but i was worried about the paint peeling off. That is a good ideal i have seen it on several other cts's. I would first have to tape it off with black tape for a couple of days and see if its a look i would like to have. People are always going to have their opions. When i first got the car i added the spoiler and it seem like whenever i was at a red light someone wanted to race. Id let them speed off with a smile on their face. Yes some will probably think im fronting with the v badges but they did not buy the car for me. I think if i wanted the v look i would have kept the v mesh grill i had on it when i got the car.
    and maybe change the bumper out, stenciled the V logo on the calipers when i painted them, add some v floor mats, and when i had the head rest redone for the tvs i would have put CTS V instead of just cts. But thats not the look i was going for. I cannot satisfy other peoples quams over my badges for their well being. When i looked for wheels for my ext i was advised not to get them because they were usally on cars and would have to have them drilled for the truck.
    So i asked, are you volunteering to buy some wheels for me. Once i had them on there i was not really 100% with them. But it was not because of what i was told it was because of the look of the exposed calliper and drum. Black chassi paint took care of that and now i have compliments instead of complaints. I could have went with the usal 5 spoke rim but it was not what i was looking for. You see, some people are just judgemental. They size you up with one look. They usally are wrong most of the time. I never judge a book by its cover. In your opion the v badges are hurting me, but in my opion the v badges helped accomplish what i was looking for. So eventually the people who are loosing sleep and getting into a freenzy over "MY" badges will die down and move on to someone else. I dont mind someone saying what there opion of the badges are. But to get bent out of shape over it is a little extreme. Life is too short for that. I apreciate your compliments on the rest of the car. And your opion about the badges. But the badges will stay unless god himself ask me to remove them. Have a good evening.
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    I always looked at the v badge as a cadillac emblem. If you seen it on a dodge you would say thats off a cadillac, or some would say its off a cadillac v. But you would have to have some knowldge of cadillac to reconize that. As you said, v bumper, side skirts, etc.. is for appearence for some and for me its the badge that adds the accent i wanted. If someone looked at a stock cts head on that had its bumper changed to a v bumper they would think its a CTS V. It would not be until they walked around the car and realized it was not. They would think its some one trying to have the V look no knowing the person had just changed the bumper for appearence reasons. So would you acuse the owner of the cts of trying to fool someone into thinking they have the v? If you were to read my replies i never claimed someone changing their bumpers or side skirts were trying to be posers. I believe they did it because they wanted a certain look. What i did say was, me personally, thought it was the same. A crossed checkered flag is not a cadillac emblem. If i were into fords and had a stock stang that i was working on and the cobra badge gave it the look i wanted it would be on there. Its not like i would take my sls and put STS or DTS on it because i would still end up with three chrome letters. At first i tried the CTS letters on the fenders but it did no bring it together like i wanted. As i searched the cadillac emblems it was the v badge that did it for me. As you stated in the begining of your reply "IMO" you are right, it is your opion, and of course IMO the badges stay because like you said to each his/her own. Have a good evening.
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    I think and know with out the badges the car has pulled off the look for the horsepower and the price. But thats was not was i was shooting for. . I have been offered more than 10k for it before the badges. But the badges are my personal touch. If people on here want to give me a hard time for it then thats there choice. Afther all this is a forum. But also by this being a forum and being a cadillac forum then i too sholud be able to post pictures of my cadillac. If i wanted to put a set of bull horns on it like they use to do the older caddies i guess i would get a lot of slack about me trying to potray my car as a bull, cow, reindeer, etc.... Who knows go figure. Never the less its useless to waste so many pages on this badge topic when we allready know that there are a lot who feel the badges should not be on there. Of course there are a lot of people who feel it should not matter. You kept your car stock because that how you like to see your car and that was a choice you were entitled to. When ever you start changing things on your vehicle that was not originally on there you are turning itinto something it was not originally. I had a 78 transam when i was younger, it was stock with a 400 engine and positrack rear. I only know this because i was told . Im not a engine performance type person. Anyway a frind of mine wanted to to tinker with it. He had a 70 or 71 camaro he use to race but wrecked. He wanted to modify my T/A. I let him. He put the engine and transmission from his car into mine. Now i had a stock T/A with a 454 engine and a transmision with a slip kit. Whatever that is. Never the less you could feel the body twisting if you really step on it and could here the tires squeal when it shifted. This car was a automatic. So what im getting at is should i have put a camaro badge on it so i would not be betraying its as a T/A anymore. Because clearly the car was not the same car it use to be. Maybe those who do feel the way they do about the badges should start a petition with GM to not sell the badges to anyone unless they have a title in there name showing they own a V. See how long you they are on hold for that petition. Daniel Akerson himself could email or call me and say, hey JW you need to take them v badges off, And i would just simply reply to him that there are more important issues then my badges that his company sold me. Yes they were purchased from a GM dealer. Thanks for you concern about the hard time some people are giving me over the badges but i kinda enjoy responding to them to let them know there tunnel vision on this matter is not really necessary. As always, have a good evening.
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    Nice copy/paste longanapper. If you had read page 75 you would know the 2 1/2 cents was a response to mmvvt comment. Seems like you like to chime in a lot also. But thats ok, Its a forum. Your copy/paste seems biased and one sided. Its not that i have a lot to say im just being respectful and replying to comments recieved. Its not about winning because i am happy with my results. Im not trying to convince any one that they should just start adding v badges to their vehicle. Im just saying to those who want to fix "their cars" the way they want to then go for it. You have people taking a stock cts and adding turbo chargers and what ever else to up the horsepower which then clearly means the car is reprsenting something it was not. But there will not be any complaints there. You did get it right about being a difference of opion but you were a little late with it. Because since the beginning i have always emphasized along with some others on here the its a matter of opion. You have a good evening also.
    Quote Originally Posted by Longsnapper52 View Post
    More like your 2 1/2 thousand dollars. Can we open J W his own section of the forum? He has quite a bit to say

    Bro, respect for all the material you have for retort, but it all boils down to this. This is a no win debate. This will have to be left at a difference of opinion.

    Mods...can we make a new sticky titled "Take a Beating for your V Badges Here!" so we can keep the V badge debate in one place?

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    Re: Post your best pics of your cts here!

    I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but you have to see how ridiculous that is to badge a V6 as a V.

    Its just like this:


    Just because this is a Nissan... doesn't mean its a GTR.
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