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Does anyone know if its possible to swap a cluster in a 2004 cts and install one from a 2005 or newer? or has anyone already done this?

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Re: 2004 cluster swap??

Plug and play except the Speedo odometer has to be updated and certified.

The car computer will know right away what you did and lock it down unless you do this.
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Re: 2004 cluster swap??

To get the milage, which is stored in the cluster, properly reset in accordance with federal law the cluster has to be sent to the service center by a dealer.
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Re: 2004 cluster swap??

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To get the milage, which is stored in the cluster, properly reset in accordance with federal law the cluster has to be sent to the service center by a dealer.
Odysseus has posted a legal place that does that but I think the dealer still has to certify the mileage. The whole deal is pricey so I by-passed the mod.
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Re: 2004 cluster swap??

Actually, it's not all that bad if you don't mind spending a bit of time & cash.

Probably the easiest way is to find the cluster you prefer from eBay or another source such as LKQ, http://www.lkqcorp.com/home/home.asp.

As best I can recall, I got mine for about $90 from LKQ. Doesn't matter what year model - all transfers are plug & play. The change must be certified to ensure compliance with federal mandates & keep your warranty in effect!

Once you have it in your hot little hands, the simple solution is to have your dealer handle the swap out - they can contact SPECMO http://www. specmo.com who handle GM work of this type, & send it to them. SPECMO will program your new cluster with the mileage settings of the original & send it back to your dealer who will then install the the certified replacement. I think my total cost, including purchase of the unit, certification & installation was around $250. I had the transfer done while the car was at the dealer for warranty work, so they had the car for 3 or 4 days - provided a free loaner since car was in for other work covered by warranty.

Some folks have dealt directly with SPECMO & saved themselves a few bucks, but doing it this way one must send both units to SPECMO. I'm not real sure if the car is useable without the cluster.

I'd go for it!
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Re: 2004 cluster swap??

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the upside of the newer cluster?
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Pardon my ignorance, but what is the upside of the newer cluster?
The '03 has a clock that's for sh!ts. The '05 has a redline feature that's pretty. The CTS-V has a G-meter and a V logo on it.
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Re: 2004 cluster swap??

I have the 2005 cluster in a 2003. The 2005 cluster looks MUCH more high quality than the 2003 and 2004. The best place to find the cluster is at www.car-part.com Put in a search for a 2005 speedometer and it will give you a list of junkyards and prices. Call a junkyard up and pay for it with a credit card and they will ship it to you. Then you must go to the dealer and they will send it to SPECMO in Madison Heights, Michigan to get reprogrammed to your actual mileage. This will cost you roughly 120 dollars I believe. The swap is very simple and can be done in about 5 minutes.
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Re: 2004 cluster swap??

Not worth it IMHO...

How many horsepower does this mod add?
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Re: 2004 cluster swap??

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Not worth it IMHO...

How many horsepower does this mod add?
Roughly the same amount Bob gained with his spiffy new engine cowling & you gained with your butterfly doors... Sorry,...couldn't help myself here...

Hey, there's some functionality gain here for the '03 folks - a temp gauge vice a clock that refuses to remain in sych with the digital one in the DIC. I think it's a good move if you own a '03...

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Re: 2004 cluster swap??

You can also brag that your car really is not a 2004. It is now a 2004.000005.

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I have the 2005 cluster in a 2003. The 2005 cluster looks MUCH more high quality than the 2003 and 2004. The best place to find the cluster is at www.car-part.com Put in a search for a 2005 speedometer and it will give you a list of junkyards and prices. Call a junkyard up and pay for it with a credit card and they will ship it to you. Then you must go to the dealer and they will send it to SPECMO in Madison Heights, Michigan to get reprogrammed to your actual mileage. This will cost you roughly 120 dollars I believe. The swap is very simple and can be done in about 5 minutes.
I don't know what the hell you guys see in these cluster upgrades but thanks to you guys, I went on car-part.com. I found my tail light in like 2 min and drove 8 mile to the junkyard to pick it up... damn thing looks clean as hell...just like new. Ive been messing with this ebay crap for like a month now and all i had to do was use that stupid website. Greenies for caddyman...
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