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Cadillac CTS First Generation Forum - 2003 - 2007 Discussion, Starting disabled remove key in Cadillac CTS Coupe, Sport Sedan and Sport Wagon Forums; So far, so good. It will be a while before we really know. Sometimes it went 6 months without happening ...
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    Re: Starting disabled remove key

    So far, so good. It will be a while before we really know. Sometimes it went 6 months without happening and sometimes it happened 4 times a day. I did notice in the bulletin that a Theft Deterrent code may be thrown for this condition. The dealer DID replace the entire theft deterrent system in the car early in the warranty period to try to fix this problem. This fix is MUCH easier. Maybe Will can explain how some service techs get led down these wrong trails.

    One note is that the kit DID come with the 2 connector pins required so don't wast time getting those separately. Installation was fairly simple. There is one mounting retainer behind the ALDL plug that if removed gives much easier access to the wiring.

    I will keep you posted but confidence is high. Thanks Will.

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    Most techs "go down the wrong road" because they don't make use of the resources we have at our fingertips.

    Years ago everything was on paper, if you needed to find a TSB you'd likely spend a lot of time searching for it in stacks of books. We had large 3 ring binders and every month GM would send out TSBs and we'd have to arrange them in the binders by service manual section, year/make/model etc.
    I can't even begin to explain what a pain it was. Even then the only reason you might look is because you remember reading something once when you were putting the TSBs in the binder.

    Now we have Service Information online. You launch it, type in a keyword and hit enter and BAM every TSB out there is right at your fingertips. Some of the old timers don't get the computer, some of the young kids are too dumb to know how to use SI, and the rest are either too lazy, don't know much about computers, or just don't think it is worth a look so they keep guessing until something sticks.
    I hate to say it but guys like me don't come around very often, usually there are only one or two in any dealer and sometimes none. (sorry if that sounds like I am bragging)

    It is easy to get confused by all these electronic gadgets especially when it involves data buses and the like.
    My background makes me ideal for this kind of thing and GM has the information out there, you just have to want to care enough to use it...

    I actually started out as a computer programmer, and I was really good at it but I got bored and needed to do something with my hands.
    I have done a lot of work and a lot of training to get where I am and I am glad I found a good dealer to work at that helps me continue to study and improve myself.

    Remember sometimes management is the biggest roadblock to the techs progress. I have had SM's in the past that almost refused to even let guys do training!

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    Re: Starting disabled remove key

    hey guys,this looks like the same issue i'm having,where can i get a Module Emulator Kit (Part Number 10357869). i called the closest gm dealer ,which is in puerto rico and they say they dont have it,i'm from the b.v.i

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    Quote Originally Posted by jemile View Post
    hey guys,this looks like the same issue i'm having,where can i get a Module Emulator Kit (Part Number 10357869). i called the closest gm dealer ,which is in puerto rico and they say they dont have it,i'm from the b.v.i
    contact Luke

    http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/member.php?u=42842

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewill3rd View Post
    I hate to say it but guys like me don't come around very often, usually there are only one or two in any dealer and sometimes none. (sorry if that sounds like I am bragging)
    you are allowed to brag...you give some of the best advice on this forum and you do it for free...and most of us are very grateful for that

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    You are the guys I do it for.

    There are some folks on here who don't care for me and believe it or not there are some guys on the GM tech forum that don't like me much either.
    I know of a few guys up in Michigan in GM offices that wait for me to trip up so they can rip at me every chance they get.
    Sad really... but I digress....

    I am only too glad to do what I can, sometimes I even make mistakes!

    (I made a doozie the other day but I'd best not talk about it.. I was overdue)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewill3rd View Post
    There are some folks on here who don't care for me and believe it or not there are some guys on the GM tech forum that don't like me much either.
    There is a word for that: jealousy

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    Re: Starting disabled remove key

    It has been several months now with no return of the problem. I am going to call this one SOLVED! Thanks Will!... See me at Summit Point for your beer payoff ;-)

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    I'm not much of a drinker, but I will be there.

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    UPDATE: It has been almost 2 years with no return of the mystery shutdown. I will officially call this one as solved! Thanks Will and Luke!
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    Glad to hear it, you are welcome!

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    Re: Starting disabled remove key

    I have the same problem, will try this solution. Thanks for an update, ssstealth!

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    Re: Starting disabled remove key

    having the same problem I HOPE THIS WORKS!!!!!

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    Re: Starting disabled remove key

    Yes, this is a permanent fix. Call Luke at Lindsay Cadillac and he will ship you the kit. We have over 260,000 miles on this car now and the issue has not returned. Hey Will, is the 3rd timing belt free?

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    Re: Starting disabled remove key

    Hi nice to meet you. The names Wayne in Jax FL. I just started having this issue on my 03 cts with 95,890 miles on the clock. Have anyone else had any luck with this fix? I am by no means a auto tech, how ever I am a old shcool gear head who is good at following instructions. Can you send me any Pic's of this "FIX"? and any tips please? Thank you,
    Wayne
    Quote Originally Posted by ewill3rd View Post
    How about that, this sounds pretty close to what is going on.
    This looks like a KW2000 logic pulse reset.

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