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    What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    I've always been a Cadillac-Buick fan first. But when I was a teen/young adult I also really wanted a Lincoln Mark VII LSC.

    I figured by now that much like Caddies, there would be all sorts of well-kept examples out there for sale. Nicely maintained by rich old guys and fully depreciated. Or one-owner estate sales. But I never see any. Would be a nice addition to the collection to grab a nice one for a few thou.

    Where are they all? Perhaps many of them might have got junked because expensive electronics, suspension, exhaust makes it a money pit. But yet there are all sorts of Mustangs on the road and engine is similar.

    Any you guys ever own one? Work on one? How bad are they? One would expect with all the mustangs out there we'd have a couple enthusiasts, at least for the Mark VII.

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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    I bought a Mark VII new. Loved it. Never took it back for any warranty work. Great ride! Traded it on an Eldorado.

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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    The Mark VII has the tried and true 5.0 right?

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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    Yeah. Supposed to be similar to Mustang 5.0 engine.

    But I see less than 1/2 dozen of them on the road per year. And over the last decade I've seen maybe less than 10 that were customized.

    Just wondering what made them nearly extinct by this point. Low demand? High repair costs? Rust?

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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    The 5.0 in the Lincoln is exactly the same as the 5.0 in the Mustang.

    Go to www.lincolnowners.com for more information on the Mark's...
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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    My first car was a black 1990 Mark VII LSC and my last car before my first Cadillac was a 1994 Mark VIII LSC. It is easy to find first gen Mark VIII (93-96)
    but the best looking ones are the 97-98s witches only about 45,000 were made over the two years. The only serious issues with all marks were the expensive leaky air suspensions but this could easily be fixed with a $600 coil over conversion. The main reason I still want a 98 LSC is because lowered they handle well and the drive line from engine to rear is 98% mustang cobra.
    Think of any mark VII or VIII as a luxed up mustang of the same year. With most of the 95-present mustang cobras weighing over 3700 lbs you can expect the exact same performance numbers if you were to mod an auto mustang cobra and a Mark VIII with the same part.

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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    Quote Originally Posted by mharker View Post
    Yeah. Supposed to be similar to Mustang 5.0 engine.

    But I see less than 1/2 dozen of them on the road per year. And over the last decade I've seen maybe less than 10 that were customized.

    Just wondering what made them nearly extinct by this point. Low demand? High repair costs? Rust?
    I see at lest one of each type everyday here in New York, especially the 93-96 Mark VIII.


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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    This redirection from the lounge to this board is lame.

    I'm not making a comparison of any cars vs. Cadillacs. Just wanted opinions from other car enthusiasts if they had experience with a specific model.

    So... if I have a question about Hyundais (or dishwashers) I get to be on the high-traffic lounge board. But if it's about Lincolns I'm bumped to the low-traffic board?

    A big fault of cadillacforums IMO.

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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    My first car was a 1986 Lincoln Mark VII LSC and the car was great. Never had any issues with it and it was in mint condition and was in the family since it was new. I've also owned a 1995 Mark VIII and that was a great car as well. You can find good condition Mark's but you have to be patient with trying to find them. I would recommend Ebay or a Lincoln forum of some sort

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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    I didn't personally move this discussion but you're right - our system is a little quirky.. We should probably just have an "Other Automobiles" section rather than a "Cadillac Versus" section..

    Quote Originally Posted by mharker View Post
    This redirection from the lounge to this board is lame.

    I'm not making a comparison of any cars vs. Cadillacs. Just wanted opinions from other car enthusiasts if they had experience with a specific model.

    So... if I have a question about Hyundais (or dishwashers) I get to be on the high-traffic lounge board. But if it's about Lincolns I'm bumped to the low-traffic board?

    A big fault of cadillacforums IMO.
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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    The Mark VIII is the #1 car I want to buy next. Most specifically, a 95 or 96 LSC in that beautifiul Cream Pearleascent color. I drove a '93 once and loved it, could spin the tires in the rain at 30-35 mph! Great exterior design too IMO, nice low, long, lean, sleek design. A better drivetrain than the Eldorados IMO, RWD, loads of aftermarket, good gas mileage with that V8, luxury appointments, nice dual level dashboard.

    The only drawbacks I see are the headlights on the Gen I non LSC's, the air suspension (easy, cheap fix though), and the HVAC blend doors on the gen 2's, mostly the '98s though. Also, since I live in MN, it's not the best winter car, but it's heavy enough (3800 lbs) and I can just throw in a couple of sandbags in the trunk to help.

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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Cadillac View Post
    I didn't personally move this discussion but you're right - our system is a little quirky.. We should probably just have an "Other Automobiles" section rather than a "Cadillac Versus" section..
    Thanks for backing me up Lord. Way back in the Cadillac Mailing List (CML) days if you said anything bad about the moderating they'd shut you down!

    I like the pace of the Cadillac lounge. Similar Corvette board moves too fast and the Impala SS/Roadmaster is too slow!!

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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    Quote Originally Posted by annie View Post
    but the best looking ones are the 97-98s witches only about 45,000 were made over the two years.



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    Actually their are only 126,000 Mark VIIIs in the world. 97-98 are ONLY 26,000. So Yea they will be hard to get. I looked at about 11 Mark VIIIs in a period of one year to find a good one. I was only going for Gen II.

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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    I am in Toronto and the for sale listings here are slim for these cars. Despite having 1/10th the population of the US, sometimes we get a lower share on some models. Example instead of having 10% of corvettes produced we have maybe 5% or less. So that must be why I can't find many low-mileage listings.

    Did a quick check on autotrader.com in NY, PA, and OH and you folks are right. They are readily available and CHEAP!

    Seems like the message on this thread is that they are good cars so low price must be simply low demand. I was thinking maybe they were money pits and people were junking them.

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    Re: What's wrong with Lincoln Mark VIIs and VIIIs?

    There were a lot of Mark VIIs made, and many are still around relative to similar year Eldos and other cars. Fewer Mark VIIIs were made to begin with. I'd say they're like any used car, you'll find a few POS cars, a few nice ones, and a lot in between.

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