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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    I am having trouble understanding something: with the suggested 475 hp-tq., this car is expected to run mid-11's? I hate to bring a new car into the mix here, but the new Z06 is running high-11's with 500 hp-tq., right? Is the GT500 so light that it will be able to beat the ZO6 with it's assumed lesser numbers?

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by illumina
    I am having trouble understanding something: with the suggested 475 hp-tq., this car is expected to run mid-11's? I hate to bring a new car into the mix here, but the new Z06 is running high-11's with 500 hp-tq., right? Is the GT500 so light that it will be able to beat the ZO6 with it's assumed lesser numbers?
    No, it's going to be heavier. The Z06 is under 3200, estimated weights for the GT500 are in excess of 3600 (sometimes well in excess.) I couldn't imagine Ford managing to get a relatively large, 4 seater that is the Mustang to be lighter than the Z06. It's an iron block with a blower on it, which definately adds weight. It does not have much lightening either.

    Blackout, it's quite simple. You're giving the GT500 too much credit, that is all.

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    but the new Z06 is running high-11's with 500 hp-tq., right
    I believe the new Z06's are running mid 11's. The new Shelby will most likely run high 11's to low 12's.

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedyArizona
    I believe the new Z06's are running mid 11's. The new Shelby will most likely run high 11's to low 12's.
    That would be my estimation as well...

    But as for the Z06, Motortrend tested one (I think it was MT) and they ran a 12 flat with it. Something tells me they didn't drive the car right on that test...

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    The GT500's estimated weight is 3700 lbs while the CTS-V is 3850 lbs and the Z06 at 3150 lbs. The Z06 is no doubt faster, but I'll expect high 11's from the GT500.

    Sorry, had to correct my numbers

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedyArizona
    The GT500's estimated weight is 3700 lbs while the CTS-V is 3850 lbs and the Z06 at 3150 lbs. The Z06 is no doubt faster, but I'll expect high 11's from the GT500.

    Sorry, had to correct my numbers
    High 11's and that's it! With the Z06 having a 550 lb. advantage, as well as a hp-tq advantage, the GT500 shouldn't be so close.

    As for the V and GT500 comparison, compare these scenarios:

    VS.

    Both provide similar effects, but one is more effective if you understand what I mean...

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    I just got a PM back from my buddy who worked on the development of the GT500 and I was asking him about their test mule and him saying about it running 11's. I was correct but not 100%. Here is what he said

    it'll run 11.9...cause our test mule did. But now that I think about it it was an 07 driveline in a 03 cobra body. I think its like a 300lb difference between gens. But like I said we did see 11.9 in testing on stock driveline only in a 03 cobra body.

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedyArizona
    I believe the new Z06's are running mid 11's. The new Shelby will most likely run high 11's to low 12's.
    I'd probably agree with you on this too. The one thing that the Cobra has in it's favor is ease of boosting power output. My guess is a "stock" Cobra will be a high 11, low 12 sec. car but with even something as small as a pulley swap, you could see Z06 performance fairly easily. Again, it may be fast but IMO, it's friggin' UGLY!
    I'm still holding out for the Challenger!

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Here's Katshot at work thinking about that Challenger


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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackout
    Here's Katshot at work thinking about that Challenger

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    UPDATE:

    I was talking to another board member that I know and here's what he told me

    Last week the Ford Rep. at the Lehigh Valley Autoshow quoted 475/475. I am a little partial towards the car since I used to work for Carroll.
    I can't wait until these things come out and people start dyno'ing them to see if Ford sand bagged the numbers like they did on the last Cobra.

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Well don't forget that Ford has been accused of going both ways on the Cobra in the past. They got bagged for OVER-estimating power and then later ones were actually UNDER-estimated. Like you siad, I'll wait 'til I see one on a dyno.
    Oh, and BTW, where'd you get that picture of me daydreaming?

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by Katshot
    Well don't forget that Ford has been accused of going both ways
    That's my quote of the day. Happy April Fool's Day!

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by Katshot
    Well don't forget that Ford has been accused of going both ways on the Cobra in the past. They got bagged for OVER-estimating power and then later ones were actually UNDER-estimated.
    I think after that fiasco you will never see the Cobra being over estimated again.

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by CVP33
    That's my quote of the day. Happy April Fool's Day!
    As I wrote that, I wondered if anyone would take it that way.

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