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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by davesdeville
    That's not really a valid comparison being that the 03-04 cobra is a totally different car with a very different motor. I wouldn't automatically give the GT500 11s quite yet, then again I wouldn't doubt it if I saw some timeslips in the very high 11s.
    Before I even opened this thread up and I saw you were the last post on here I was 100% sure that you were going to be quoting something I said and low and behold I was correct. But what you just said has to be the most stupid thing I have ever read. yes the 03-04 Cobra was a different car then the GT500. It has less power and a different motor. So now the new GT500 with a new motor and 100 more hp and a 100 more lb/tq isn't going to be a full second faster in the 1/4? Since Ford hasn't come out with the exact numbers for the GT500 the only thing they are saying is that the hp and tq is estimated at 475 and 475. The GT500 in its prototype stages I believe was running mid to upper 11's

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?



    I must admit that the current generation Mustang is the most appealing in the line. The previous two design styles were just horrible, but they've really turned it around.

    This GT500 looks to be impressive, but with the price approaching $50k (and that's before dealer markups) they need to do something about the cheap interior and the plastic grill mesh.
    Performance-wise, it sounds to be right on. I just hope they do a little more to distinguish the top of the line versions from the dime a dozen V6's this time.

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Pricing is suposed to be around the price of the last gen Cobra. Pricing will be in the $40's which no matter how you look at it is an amazing price for a close to if not 500 hp car

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    This thread is little vague. Are you talking a general comparison, or just performance. I'm assuming you're talking just performance, since only a moron would honestly be trying to compare these two cars IMO. If so, I think it's fair to say the GT500 driver has nothing to fear from a CTS-V driver. That said, I find it interesting that someone mentioned something about a cheap looking interior in the Mustang. I could swear I remember MANY people having the exact same complaint about the CTS interior. Hey, the Mustang isn't supposed to be a luxury car like the CTS so a plain (read "functional") interior shouldn't be a big deal, right? As for the looks, IMO, the CTS-V has the looks over the GT500. I like the new Mustang GT but really hate the GT500. FUGLY!!

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

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    blah blah blah Since Ford hasn't come out with the exact numbers for the GT500 the only thing they are saying is that the hp and tq is estimated at 475 and 475. The GT500 in its prototype stages I believe was running mid to upper 11's
    So you're saying you don't know either. Good job.

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    This thread is little vague. Are you talking a general comparison, or just performance. I'm assuming you're talking just performance, since only a moron would honestly be trying to compare these two cars IMO. If so, I think it's fair to say the GT500 driver has nothing to fear from a CTS-V driver. That said, I find it interesting that someone mentioned something about a cheap looking interior in the Mustang. I could swear I remember MANY people having the exact same complaint about the CTS interior. Hey, the Mustang isn't supposed to be a luxury car like the CTS so a plain (read "functional") interior shouldn't be a big deal, right? As for the looks, IMO, the CTS-V has the looks over the GT500. I like the new Mustang GT but really hate the GT500. FUGLY!!
    Thank you Katshot, these two cars CANNOT be compared! One if a luxury sports sedan, the other is a powerful and famous sports coupe. I liked the interior on both cars, the CTS-V has a nice yet subtle luxurious feel to it; the GT500 has a retro and fun interior that fits it well.

    As for looks, I definetly love the GT500, the CTS-V can't hold a candle to it (my opinion). I still wish they'd bring back the GT350, that car actually has some extensive racing history.

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedyArizona
    Thank you Katshot, these two cars CANNOT be compared! One if a luxury sports sedan, the other is a powerful and famous sports coupe. I liked the interior on both cars, the CTS-V has a nice yet subtle luxurious feel to it; the GT500 has a retro and fun interior that fits it well.

    As for looks, I definetly love the GT500, the CTS-V can't hold a candle to it (my opinion). I still wish they'd bring back the GT350, that car actually has some extensive racing history.
    If you go to the New York Auto Show you will see this.....


    New York show briefs: Sheby GT350H reincarnated

    AutoWeek | Published 03/21/06, 12:00 pm et


    1966 Ford Shelby Mustang 350

    One more little teaser: We hear Ford is putting the finishing touches on a special throwback Mustang for New York, one that echoes the famed Hertz rental car Shelby Mustangs from the ’60s. Ford isn’t talking, but sources tell us the latest incarnation of the Shelby GT350H will carry the same gold-on-black paint scheme as the 1966 original. The new GT350H will also offer higher performance in keeping with the car from the past that, legend has it, was often rented and raced (though participation in SCCA events is unsubstantiated). Ford built 999 copies of the 1966 GT350H, which featured a 289-cid, 306-hp V8.

    Stay tuned to AutoWeek.com for all the latest news from the New York show during media preview days April 12-13.

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by davesdeville
    So you're saying you don't know either. Good job.
    Head of SVT, Hau Thai-Tang, along with Carrol Shelby have stuffed the extraordinary 5.4-liter, DOHC, 32-valve supercharged V8 from the Ford GT super car under the Mustang's hood. Final horsepower numbers have not yet been announced, but Thai-Tang hints it will be “Well over 450 hp, closer to 500.” Look for 450-plus lb-ft of torque too. Whatever the final numbers, it will be insane. Engineer Thai-Tang, who did a stint at Newman-Haas Racing, sums up the powertrain by saying: “It's gonna be a monster.”
    So how are you supposed to quote numbers that aren't available yet? Due for real STFU if all you have to say is going to be something arrogant. Atleast I am contributing something useful to this thread unlike you

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Well looks like I'll have to go to Hertz and rent a GT350H. I wonder if they'll let me buy one...

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackout
    So how are you supposed to quote numbers that aren't available yet? Due for real STFU if all you have to say is going to be something arrogant. Atleast I am contributing something useful to this thread unlike you
    That's my point, you're not supposed to quote numbers that aren't available yet. You're not adding anything to the thread by doing it.

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by davesdeville
    That's my point, you're not supposed to quote numbers that aren't available yet. You're not adding anything to the thread by doing it.
    You truly are an idiot. This thread is comparing the CTS-V and the GT500. Since the current CTS-V is at the very best a upper 12 second car in stock trim and the last gen Cobra's are doing upper to mid 12's in stock trim. Now you add more hp and tq to the tune of damn near 100 more in both hp and tq and you don't think the car will be doing 11's? Who the hell cares about the exact numbers that Ford is claiming for them because they will be most likely underrated just like the last Cobra's numbers were. So yes I am adding something to this thread since were comparing the two cars. All you have managed to do is point out the obvious that the GT500 isn't a luxury sports car and then try to start crap with me because I don't have the EXACT numbers. You have become one of the biggest trolls on this forum s of late. I dunno what your issue is but if its with me PM me and tell me what the problem seems to be if your not going to do that then like I said before

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Way to go guys. You scared Gary Coleman.

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

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    Way to go guys. You scared Gary Coleman.
    lol....i love that pic. I haven't seen that one in awhile

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

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    Well what are you looking for in this comparison? Are you talking performance? Ammenities *sp?*? But if your talking performance the GT500 will eat a CTS-V alive. The last gen Cobra is good for mid to upper 12's in stock trim, now you add more hp and tq and your seeing 11's. The GT500 will be the best bang for the buck car out there. And all you need to do then is a pulley swap and hello mid 11's!
    best bang for the buck? at $40,000 to $45,000? i'd take a 300 SRT/8 over the Shelby.and just wait till the HEMI Cudas come back,and not to mention Camaro.i'm very sure those two cars will be cheaper,and not to mention, fun to drive.and all stuffed with big old fashionded push-rod technology.not this rice-tech supercharged stuff that's out there now.

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    Re: 2006 Carol Shelby Mustang VS 2006 CTS-V?

    Quote Originally Posted by Haleykeek
    best bang for the buck? at $40,000 to $45,000? i'd take a 300 SRT/8 over the Shelby.
    Ok have fun with the slower car that only comes in a automatic.
    and just wait till the HEMI Cudas come back
    That won't be coming back since Plymouth isn't around anymore
    ,and not to mention Camaro.i'm very sure those two cars will be cheaper,and not to mention, fun to drive.
    The Camaro should be interesting to see but your talking 2+ years down the line so there is no comparison and you can't say as to which car iwll be cheaper and more fun to drive.
    and all stuffed with big old fashionded push-rod technology.not this rice-tech supercharged stuff that's out there now.
    lol......ummm.....ok. I'll take the car that comes stock with a blower and spend the $60 for the pulley to make more hp then going out and spending a few grand for a blower, then tuning it, then changing the compression, then reinforcing the block, etc. So have fun with the pushrod

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