I read about the V in C&D in August of '03 and me likey! I start thinking about what I'd need to do to get one for the summer of '04. When I saw it at the local show, I stared in wonder at the shiny, black beast. That's when it was go time for me. I hadn't felt that way about a car since seeing the new M5 in '00.
I'd love to have a Challenger as well. Something tells me this car is going to be a hit. It's going to be relatively cheap considering the amount of performance your going to get, Hemi 425hp, coupe, Brembo's, Carbon fiber hood, Pistol Grip, and a beautiful design, IMO. I'd be inline to get one if my V is paid off by then. On the other hand, it would be fun to wait for limited production of Challenger to come out later on, say a "Six-Pack".
The Challenger concept is sweet looking. But, I wouldn't put it past Chrysler on doing something to f**k it up before they release it... The concept pics of the Charger were sweet, but it looks like ass if you ask me.
I think I'm going to sign the wife up for one of these when they come out:
If you go to the track with a bone stock v....and I mean BONE stock and just replace the tires with slicks you WILL NOT get 12s even if the diff holds up, period.
Putting a 9" means no more IRS..which means no more wheelhop and with stickies(slicks) I can launch from 5k+ and actually hook up...and yes...I WOULD get 12's easy, the trap speeds of stock Vs being close to 109 shows the power is there. With bone stock V's already running low 13's I don't see how you can say 12's are impossible.
You might want to wait and see if they put out a Saturn Sky Redline. I've heard lots of stories about dealers trying to sell the Solstice for up to $5K above sticker with BS market adjustments. I'm not sure Saturn dealers would be able to do that with their no-negotiate policy. I think the Sky is much better looking anyway, and I'd own one if was willing to spend the money for a second car.
You might want to wait and see if they put out a Saturn Sky Redline. I've heard lots of stories about dealers trying to sell the Solstice for up to $5K above sticker with BS market adjustments. I'm not sure Saturn dealers would be able to do that with their no-negotiate policy. I think the Sky is much better looking anyway, and I'd own one if was willing to spend the money for a second car.
Chuck you Farley
To me the Camaro concept car looks too much like a Mustang clone for me, and I wouldn't have a "stang" on a stick.
Cure the launch problems and the V should be in the 12's. I've seen too many Fbody's there to not think the V could do it. Again it only takes 3 mods to put a late model auto Fbody in the 11's, why shouldn't a V be in the 12's?
As for the Challenger, I have a good feeling about this one. I think MOPAR is actually going to hit the mark with a TRUE American muscle car. Just like the recipe from the 60's, the car should be Hot, fast, and cheap. Keep the gizmos and gadgets for other cars like the 300C SRT-8. This car (and likely the upcoming Road Runner) will hopefully be near blank canvas cars for the customers to "play" with.
As for the Challenger, I have a good feeling about this one. I think MOPAR is actually going to hit the mark with a TRUE American muscle car. Just like the recipe from the 60's, the car should be Hot, fast, and cheap. Keep the gizmos and gadgets for other cars like the 300C SRT-8. This car (and likely the upcoming Road Runner) will hopefully be near blank canvas cars for the customers to "play" with.
Road Runner???????? UMMMM Plymouth is dead. Road Runner was a cheap Charger...but now the new Charger is cheap so why would you come out with a cheaper version?
What's with Dodge stating that they can't work out a business case for the Challenger. May have to price $6-$7k over the Mustang GT. I think I read that in the rags, but that may just be Dodge blowing smoke at the media to throw them off.
The CTS-V is a Nurburgring car. It's developed for large difficult tracks, not drag racing. I know this is probably hard for some of you red-blooded americans, but the car was not made to stoplight race.
With it's power, sure it does a respectable job there, but it isn't what the car was built for. The suspension has been praised many times over for pulling the trick of making the heavy CTS feel like a sports car (it's a 5-series sized car that handles at the level of the much smaller 3-series; that speaks volumes about how well thought out the suspension is).
The other route GM could have taken was to make it a straightline monster, but this would assuredly give up some of the amazing handling characteristics and we would have just another "american car" that can't navigate a corner properly.
If you want a four door muscle car, go to the SRTs. If you want an american built car on the level of Germany's finest, buy a V.
A 540i Sport totally stock will SMOKE both of those cars on a track. It's a poor man's M5. Yes, it's not as fast in a straight line as either of them, but it can do handle winter (shot at 300), and it can race without worrying about its differential exploding (shot at CTS-V). I mean my 7 has better track performance than the 300C SRT8 and I can't keep up with the 540i Sport on a track, not straight line speed, but handling's the game on a track as long as you've got enough power to keep your speed up, which my 400HP qualifies me for.
A 540i Sport totally stock will SMOKE both of those cars on a track. It's a poor man's M5. Yes, it's not as fast in a straight line as either of them, but it can do handle winter (shot at 300), and it can race without worrying about its differential exploding (shot at CTS-V). I mean my 7 has better track performance than the 300C SRT8 and I can't keep up with the 540i Sport on a track, not straight line speed, but handling's the game on a track as long as you've got enough power to keep your speed up, which my 400HP qualifies me for.
A WRX STi totally stock will SMOKE both of those cars on a track. It's a poor man's Z06. Yes, it's not as fast in a straight line as either of them, but it can handle winter. (shot at CTS-V), and it can race without worrying about it's differentials explogding (shot at CTS-V). I mean my S2000 has better track performance than the 300C SRT8 and I can't keep up with the WRX STi on a track, not straight line speed, but handling's the game on a track as long as you've got enough power to keep your speed up, which my 425HP qualifies me for.
NOW SEE HOW FREAKING RIDICULOUS YOUR ARGUMENT IS JUST BY SUBSTITUTING WRX STi AND S2000? WHAT A MAROON. :thepan:
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