Cadillac or competing brand model ? Why ? Discussion, cadillac VS ....... in Item Specific Cadillac Discussion; I dont think of it as a sports car because of the back seat...
I dont think of it as a sports car because of the back seat A sports car might have a jump seat, Porsche has since 1948. But when it has a true rear seat, it ceases to be a true sports car.
Originally posted by Dead Sled I dont think of it as a sports car because of the back seat
Look at the values of the 1960's 2+2 Ferrari's. Why do they stay so low, while the two seaters command top dollar? They weren't 'sports cars'. They were GT's. Grand Tourers.
But like I said earlier, the definitions are starting to get blurred.
(No one had the Phaeton answer huh?) your definition included the word "usually" when it refered to backseats and although i have no numbers my guess is an M3 is not much higher off the ground than a stang or camaro...the fact is as ive said a hundred times in two different threads it is hard to define, but hotrod you still must insist im wrong, even though you know there are examples of non-low 2+2 sports cars all over the place you even brought up a ferrari 2 posts later....i believe its a sports car you dont lets leave it at that...i can counter all your arguments and you can counter all mine and when devil shows up later he'll say im wrong too, but either way i still believe its a sports car So the Saint and the Devil both say your wrong? Now what are you going to do?
Originally posted by HotRodSaint But like I said earlier, the definitions are starting to get blurred.
We can agree to disgree.
Automotive News doesn't even say sports car, it says sporty car. I would not have placed the Mustang on that list and left the M3 off.
Soon, station wagon will have been redefined. SUV already is.
It's certainly the golden age of the automobile. http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/mostwanted/2002/47596/article.html
woo hoo edmunds agrees with me i can stay in the US...didnt realize the saint/devil thing i guess im screwed either way..oh well ive had the flu all week i probably wont remember any of this anyway as far as your phaeton question the only thing i could dig up was that a phaeton should have a removable or foldable top Hell this alone was enuff to make me want to move down there!!!
6-speed with the LS1 V8 Yea, but Edmunds lists the Corvette and Porsche as a Coupe! And certainly you have to at least agree the the Mini isn't a coupe?!
Originally posted by Brett woo hoo edmunds agrees with me i can stay in the US...
Besides, I've been to Australia and I wouldn't be looking for a reason to stay here if I could move there. edmunds also has 13 wagons under "sport" not that i was gonna bring that up either It should be an El Camino!! Whats keeping Chevrolet from offering this now? Instead they bring us a 42,000 SSR. Why not this at 22,000?
Originally posted by Mad'lac Hell this alone was enuff to make me want to move down there!!!
6-speed with the LS1 V8 Well with the way Lutz is shaking up GM right now.... I wouldn't be suprise that it would come here in a few years. ahhh yes we can agree, the SSR makes no sense at 42k...its that thinking that worries me, like the CTS-V will come out at 65k or something Looks real nice in red too!!!