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Cadillac or competing brand model ? Why ? Discussion, Deville or Lexus LS430 in Item Specific Cadillac Discussion; Originally Posted by 1toycad That is your opinion. and you know what they say about opinions...they are like...well, you know ...
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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    Quote Originally Posted by 1toycad
    That is your opinion. and you know what they say about opinions...they are like...well, you know how the rest goes.
    Amen, Toycad! Some are bigger than others!

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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    People who don't mind wind and road noise will take the DeVille. People who want a silent interior will take the Lexus. Same goes for smooth ride. If you want the smoother ride, you'll go for the Lexus..
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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    Sal, Cadillac should receive an email with this thread!!!, maybe Bob Lutz. This is a Cadillac forum and the LS 430 wins HANDS DOWN!!! WOW!!!


    P.S. I too would get the Lexus...!!!

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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    That's just cause overall we're a pretty objective bunch. Style is important to me so I'd take a DTS, 2006 preferably.

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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    DTS all the way! I prefer my cars a little more exciting while supporting and keeping more of my money in Detroit and I'll gladly drive 2nd best to support that notion.

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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    My dad has a 04 Deville, i have an 04 LS....this is not a comparison. The LS has consistently beaten s-class, 7er's, A8's, XJ's. The deville isnt even in magazine comparisons. For people who actually buy these cars the LS is percieved by many as the finest luxury car in the world. for people who actually buy these cars, the deville is a rental car or at best something your dad drives, i.e. my dad drives one

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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    if someone has an opinion that 1 dollar is worth more than 100 dollars, is that opinion somehow valid? some opinions are wrong, thats why its so annoying everyone has one.

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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    Why would you let your dad drive such a disgraceful piece of shit then?

    If you had a Picasso and a blank piece of canvas that would be a bit more like the situation. Sure the Picasso is more prone to breaking than the blank, but the Picasso Deville is cool looking whereas the blank piece of canvas LS430 is boring but better in other ways.

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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    Quote Originally Posted by davesdeville
    Why would you let your dad drive such a disgraceful piece of shit then?
    he didnt ask my advice and its not disgraceful, and it isnt an LS430 either

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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    oh and yes, the LS can definitely be boring, but the deville doesnt exactly strike me as a dynamic driving experience

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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    Quote Originally Posted by Brett
    oh and yes, the LS can definitely be boring, but the deville doesnt exactly strike me as a dynamic driving experience
    But the styling and heritage is 100 times more interesting than anything lexus HAS imo. NO ONE TOUCHES CADILLAC FOR TECHNOLOGY AND TOYS, granted, Lexus is not a skimper in the technology department. I just cannot get excited about them. Yes, I've been in one.

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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph
    NO ONE TOUCHES CADILLAC FOR TECHNOLOGY AND TOYS, granted, Lexus is not a skimper in the technology department.
    Toys my LS has that the Deville doesnt:

    -Back-up Camera
    -front and rear park assist with graphic display
    -automatic side-folding mirrors
    -6 speed automatic trans, with manumatic mode
    -Keyless Start/Keyless Entry
    -Adaptive Headlights
    -Bluetooth Nav System

    Toys available on the LS that the deville doesnt have:

    -Power closing doors
    -Laser cruise control
    -rear door sunshades
    -Headlamp Washers
    -power rear seats with massager
    -refrigerator in rear
    -Pre-Collision System

    Toys Deville has that LS doesnt

    -Magnetic Ride Control
    -Onstar

    I dont know of any others, feel free to correct any of the above.

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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    In the 16 years or so that the Lexus LS has been in production, it's managed to go farther than any other luxury vehicle in such short time. So, they've perfected just about everything except ONE thing. The exterior. Some people actually like the way the car looks. I'm one of those people. However, I notice most people aren't impressed.. However, the next model is not-likely to be bland. What then? What then could be said against the Lexus LS? Not a thing? Isn't that almost ridiculous?
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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    Quote Originally Posted by Brett
    Toys my LS has that the Deville doesnt:

    -Back-up Camera
    -front and rear park assist with graphic display
    -automatic side-folding mirrors
    -6 speed automatic trans, with manumatic mode
    -Keyless Start/Keyless Entry
    -Adaptive Headlights
    -Bluetooth Nav System

    Toys available on the LS that the deville doesnt have:

    -Power closing doors
    -Laser cruise control
    -rear door sunshades
    -Headlamp Washers
    -power rear seats with massager
    -refrigerator in rear
    -Pre-Collision System

    Toys Deville has that LS doesnt

    -Magnetic Ride Control
    -Onstar

    I dont know of any others, feel free to correct any of the above.
    How about :

    Night vision

    LED taillights

    Performance Algirithm shifting

    Magnetic Steering (Magnasteer)

    Onstar (you mentioned)

    2 choices of suspension

    heated rear seats, and front - (with massager)

    If I wanted more options I'd get an STS but Cadillac is no slouch. Things like the TYPE of cruise control is STILL cruise control, doesn't matter if it's "lazer" or not. The STS has digital camera in the headlights, etc. Therefore I would certainly say that Cadillac options are on par and there can only be so much development in each area and call it a different name, etc. I'm pretty sure you can get rear door sunshades for a Cadillac from the dealership, etc. Yes, Cadillac has it's own nav system so who cares if it's Bluetooth.

    BTW, good luck getting the 6 speed towed properly, or hope the tow truck driver knows how to do it because some cars like Saturn are going FROM a 5 speed back to a 4 speed this year because of ruined trannies from improper towing. (a dealer told me about that)

    Lexus is still too boring for me to want one and the styling for years looked like a rip off from Benz IMO.

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    Re: Deville or Lexus LS430

    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph
    How about :

    Night vision

    LED taillights

    Performance Algirithm shifting

    Magnetic Steering (Magnasteer)

    Onstar (you mentioned)

    2 choices of suspension

    heated rear seats, and front - (with massager)

    If I wanted more options I'd get an STS but Cadillac is no slouch. Things like the TYPE of cruise control is STILL cruise control, doesn't matter if it's "lazer" or not. The STS has digital camera in the headlights, etc. Therefore I would certainly say that Cadillac options are on par and there can only be so much development in each area and call it a different name, etc. I'm pretty sure you can get rear door sunshades for a Cadillac from the dealership, etc. Yes, Cadillac has it's own nav system so who cares if it's Bluetooth.

    BTW, good luck getting the 6 speed towed properly, or hope the tow truck driver knows how to do it because some cars like Saturn are going FROM a 5 speed back to a 4 speed this year because of ruined trannies from improper towing. (a dealer told me about that)

    Lexus is still too boring for me to want one and the styling for years looked like a rip off from Benz IMO.
    LS has 3 suspension option. Base, Sport(mine), and the air suspension of the ultra-lux, my tailiights are LED. LS seats are of course heated and cooled. LS steering is of course variable assist. Night vision is no longer offered on the deville.

    LS's dont need to be towed, since they dont break down


    If you compare the STS to the LS then they are basically even, i was comparing the deville to the LS.

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