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    Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    I know that we've had the discussion about Acura not being a true luxury car like Cadillac, etc. but DAYMN...what I saw in the showroom impressed me today!

    I checked out the new AWD RL (pearl white) and they are definately trying to compete with Cadillac IMO! It costs the same as a nicely equipted DTS ($70,000 Cdn.) and has power to match. It has the equivalent of Stabilitrack. The car actually "welcomes" you when you open the door. The remote keyless entry that senses your presence much like the XLR, or STS, etc. The only problem I had with it is that the front end looks identical to a little Mazda 3's.

    Considering that the '05 DTS Northstar HP is down to 290 @ 5600 rpm, and torque is 285 @ 4400 rpm, I think this new RL must come close in accelleration times?

    Here are the RL numbers:
    300 HP @6200 rpm and torque is 260 @ 5000rpm.

    Weight for TL is 4001 lbs.
    Weight for DTS is 4047 lbs.

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    Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    http://www.acura.com/models/model_index.asp?module=rl


    It's amazing what they are getting for HP out of a V6.

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    Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    Why is horsepower down to 290?! I think 0-60 will go to the DeVille but it'll get close for the quarter mile. Beyond that has to go to the RL...
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    Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    I asked a Caddy dealer that same question about the HP and he said it might have to do with meeting emissions.

    I wouldn't know how close to call these cars but with a sticker price matching a DTS and more technology to boot, they are sure trying to compete.

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    Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    that thing is ugly. i almost threw up when i saw it . and they want 70k? they have got to be kidding.

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    Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    That's 70k Canadian. Hideous car too.

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    Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    With the Northstars 40 ft-lbs. better torque, it will be a better drag racer!

    Bring on them Jap cars, my STS will shut em down!

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    Thumbs up Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    I think the Acura is very impressive. There are no options, expect dealer installed extras (wood, gold trim, wheels), and the MSRP is $49,000. I didn't drive it, but the front seats are extremely comfortable and the dash is nicely finished. XM radio is standard, along with the navigation system that provides for real-time traffic reports in major cities. The system also transmits to your vehicle your service appointments and service bulletins for your review. The only area overlooked, that I know of, is the passenger seat. It does not have a height adjustment, and features 4-way power and power lumbar. I think that this car compares very well with the STS on price and features. Oh yeah, it is AWD to boot. Can you tell I like it?

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    Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    I liked it too but I would have to drive it. I was wondering if anyone reading this might have taken one out for a test drive? I would love to hear some impressions, etc.

    I noticed it was a lot wider than the TL, and overall seemed larger. I found my perfect seating position. That's true about the torque, it is down compared to Cadillac, but then the Northstars torque is down a bit too.

    Many people feel that Acura is a poor man's Lexus, and I wonder if Acura could be truly considered a priemiere luxury car unless they get a V8 under the hood? As far as I know, Honda/Acura have never offered a V8, and if I'm not mistaken, the Pilot only has a large V6?

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    Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    Not sure that the absence of a V8 under the hood necessarily disqualifies you from "luxury car" status...Just ask most owners of XJ-6's...

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    Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    The 300Hp V6 should be more than enough, so the old RL not having a V8 isn't that significant as when the last gen had a ~227 HP V6. Other manufacturers should be worried that Acura will one day produce a V8.

    Now if they could only work on the styling. It's seems like a very capable sedan but the styling is horrible for 50K. It looks like a big Accord. The styling is the only gripe I have about it.

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    Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    I priced it out with the options I'd buy. It's $ 51,200.00 (USA).
    1. It's Ugly, looks like a honDUH
    2. It's overpriced.
    3. Lets not lose sight: It's a 6 Cyl Japanese small car.

    I'll stick with my 2003 Town Car Limited Edition @ $40,000 and 215" long, 80" wide and room for 6 250 pounders, with a blouvard smooth, no wind whistles, luxury car ride. 5,500 miles & 18 months old, never been back for an adjustment, nor a "problem". Actually, I'd prefer the final year Catera Sport over that overpriced little Jap car.
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    or too much :drinker

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    Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    I like it A LOT. Nice design, powerful engine, good overall features. Waiting for the reviews!

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    Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy
    I priced it out with the options I'd buy. It's $ 51,200.00 (USA).
    1. It's Ugly, looks like a honDUH
    2. It's overpriced.
    3. Lets not lose sight: It's a 6 Cyl Japanese small car.

    I'll stick with my 2003 Town Car Limited Edition @ $40,000 and 215" long, 80" wide and room for 6 250 pounders, with a blouvard smooth, no wind whistles, luxury car ride. 5,500 miles & 18 months old, never been back for an adjustment, nor a "problem". Actually, I'd prefer the final year Catera Sport over that overpriced little Jap car.
    Ralph, I am surprised at you! Was it the Lunar Eclipse of last night ???
    or too much :drinker
    I wouldn't call it small. It was a lot wider than the TL parked beside it in the showroom, and a little longer. The wheelbase is 2800 mm! Geez I hate the metric system! LOL! I just think it was a nice car but you really have to see one in person I suppose.

    It's not like I would buy one over a NEW Caddy, especially if they are the same price.

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    Re: Northstar Vs. New RL with 300 HP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy
    I'll stick with my 2003 Town Car Limited Edition @ $40,000 and 215" long, 80" wide and room for 6 250 pounders, with a blouvard smooth, no wind whistles, luxury car ride. 5,500 miles & 18 months old, never been back for an adjustment, nor a "problem".
    Don't Jinx yourself Sandy

    Ralph, have you been in the STS? Which interior did you like better? I think the RLs interior is nice looking(though I have only seen pictures). I think I would rather have the STS though. I dont like the back of the RL the front is okay. It does have really impresive AWD that can like send all the engines power to any one wheel if needed.

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