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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    first cadillac needs to worry about building a high luxury car to take on the s600, bmw 760iL, Audi A8L, sorry but the new STS and current DTS(as nice as they are) simply wont do. They need to make direct competitiors to the large flagships...THEN cadillac can worry about making an ultra high luxury vehicle, as of right now though, its too early.

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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    Quote Originally Posted by Caddy Man
    first cadillac needs to worry about building a high luxury car to take on the s600, bmw 760iL, Audi A8L, sorry but the new STS and current DTS(as nice as they are) simply wont do. They need to make direct competitiors to the large flagships...THEN cadillac can worry about making an ultra high luxury vehicle, as of right now though, its too early.
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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    Quote Originally Posted by Caddy Man
    first cadillac needs to worry about building a high luxury car to take on the s600, bmw 760iL, Audi A8L, sorry but the new STS and current DTS(as nice as they are) simply wont do. They need to make direct competitiors to the large flagships...THEN cadillac can worry about making an ultra high luxury vehicle, as of right now though, its too early.
    ...can't argue with that...
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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Collaziano
    ...can't argue with that...
    Ditto, but I still think Cadillac can walk and chew gum at the same time...

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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Collaziano
    People are paying $110,000.00 for a Volkswagen...
    I've driven one. 405 hp W12, AWD. Just try to pull your head out of the seat cushion!

    SWEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT (drive by wire throttle sucks though).

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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    I have been in the Phantom for over 1 hour of driving time. Gets more attention then a firetruck, depending on where you are. Bentley GT is nice and a little more affordable. Maybach, I've only glanced at. Caddy is AMERICAN, so this would be incredible if they went through with that kind of model entry into today's current marketplace. I still pick the phantom, equipped with closing rear doors at the push of a button. WOW.

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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    The sad thing is that if any car company in the world could build a low-production car like the Sixteen, it would be GM. They've got the cash. No, it might not be profitable, but that isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes you need to take hits on good models.

    Look at Toyota. The Prius has to be losing a ton of money, but it's helping Toyota's image like mad. GM's efforts at image (new GTO, SSR) are just not on-target with any market. Cars are answering questions that were never asked!

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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    I think Cadillac can produce Sixteen, because Gm is very big company. But Ameri can economy is not good now , and GM is explaining loss every month/year. And also, Cadillac should produce "Sixteen" in different factory, not like Bmw or Mercedes. Specially VW, Rolls-Royce uses same platform with VW marked cars, Lamborghini Gallardo has got same Navigation screen and AC buttons with Audi A6, it is completely unacceptible. Cadillac had got much more luxury interiors, in 70's, all buttons were made with art.

    Besides, VW is not euqual to Cadillac. VW is Upper-Middle Class while Cadillac is upper-luxury class. VW is belong to one step behind. But I have got a better idea. Mercedes selected old name in the past, which was discontinued Maybach. Cadillac can do the same thing. They can give "Oldsmobile" name to their Super-Luxury cars. I am sure that Cadillac can sell better than those 3, because Sixteen's design is fantastic.

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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    Maybach, without a doubt the flyest cars.

    I've seen two in my entire life and they both belonged to the MGM Grand.

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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    Quote Originally Posted by Newmonarch View Post
    I think Cadillac can produce Sixteen, because Gm is very big company. But Ameri can economy is not good now , and GM is explaining loss every month/year. And also, Cadillac should produce "Sixteen" in different factory, not like Bmw or Mercedes. Specially VW, Rolls-Royce uses same platform with VW marked cars, Lamborghini Gallardo has got same Navigation screen and AC buttons with Audi A6, it is completely unacceptible. Cadillac had got much more luxury interiors, in 70's, all buttons were made with art.

    Besides, VW is not euqual to Cadillac. VW is Upper-Middle Class while Cadillac is upper-luxury class. VW is belong to one step behind. But I have got a better idea. Mercedes selected old name in the past, which was discontinued Maybach. Cadillac can do the same thing. They can give "Oldsmobile" name to their Super-Luxury cars. I am sure that Cadillac can sell better than those 3, because Sixteen's design is fantastic.
    I think it would be rough trying to sell a $250,000.00 Oldsmobile.
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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern-Hospitality View Post
    Maybach, without a doubt the flyest cars.

    I've seen two in my entire life and they both belonged to the MGM Grand.
    Maybachs are nice, but they scream 'warmed over 2-tone S600. If Im paying that money, I want handbuilt, hand stitched, everything and I dont want it looking like anything else on the road, especially not like its younger brother (obviously the previous gen. s-class). The Rolls is a classier ride, doesnt have any entry level brethern like the A-class to muddy its image, and it has so much more presence.
    Cadillac can't compete with any of these imo. Cadillac needs to build a highly capable large sedan thats accepted by the elite before it ever competes in the super luxury.

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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    Quote Originally Posted by luddyludwick View Post
    GM... They've got the cash. No, it might not be profitable, but that isn't always a bad thing.
    Bruce
    This was a post from 2004. Interesting how drastically the situation has changed since then? Atleast publicly anyhow...

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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    Cadillac has a long way to go before they're accepted on the level that a Rolls/Bentley or Maybach is.
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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    Indeed they do. First they have to beat Lexus, MB, and BMW before chasing after Bentley, RR and Maybach.

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    Re: Cadillac Vs. Maybach Vs. Rolls Royce Vs. Bentley

    Yeah, but this should not be difficult for GM. In the past, they produced luxury and leading technology cars I think. Even MB was taking automatic trans. from GM. Gm is father of firsts and modern car. They can do it. For example , Benz is not excellent car maker. The W140 hasnt got trip computer even 1980 Caddy has.

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