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Cadillac or competing brand model ? Why ? Discussion, What's Cadillac's answer going to be to this (very big Lincoln)? in Item Specific Cadillac Discussion; http://www.lincolnforums.com/forums/...showtopic=3507 This vehicle is HUGE! Bigger than the Town Car; bigger than the most recent Fleetwood Brougham. This is going ...
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    Exclamation What's Cadillac's answer going to be to this (very big Lincoln)?

    http://www.lincolnforums.com/forums/...showtopic=3507

    This vehicle is HUGE! Bigger than the Town Car; bigger than the most recent Fleetwood Brougham. This is going to be the roomiest four passenger vehicle on the road besides the Rolls Royce Phantom and a few Bentleys.. They're calling it the Learjet of the road..

    I guess we all know what's replacing the Lincoln Town Car now...
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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    Bigger than a Fleetwood Brougham? It's only 200 inches long. Better than a Lincoln Town Car? Please. I don't care how many turbochargers the engine has, it's still a V6. I'm going to sit here and watch the entire luxury car segment drive off a cliff. In the mean time, I'll keep my Town Car.

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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    It may be roomy, but it's downright ugly.

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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    I agree it really looks like something a 8 year old child would scribble...

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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxb49 View Post
    Bigger than a Fleetwood Brougham? It's only 200 inches long. Better than a Lincoln Town Car? Please. I don't care how many turbochargers the engine has, it's still a V6. I'm going to sit here and watch the entire luxury car segment drive off a cliff. In the mean time, I'll keep my Town Car.
    I should have said, "bigger inside"... It's got more room. Even width.
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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    I hope Cadillac's answer to that is dead silence.

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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesda View Post
    I hope Cadillac's answer to that is dead silence.
    Probably more like a muffled cackle... LOL

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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    Check out the MKT's one-piece windshield & glass roof. That certainly won't make it to production. (Any bets on how much it would cost to replace the glass when the windshield gets chipped? $5K?)

    One piece I read said that if it goes to production, the 4-seater would be morphed into a 3-row crossover. Ho, hum.

    Lincoln (and Ford) seem to be doing a lot with short crossovers and tall cars. ( 60" - 67" tall) This seems to be the sweet spot for easy access and higher sight lines for the driver. All of the Cadillac sedans are in the 57-58" tall range.

    Rumor has it that the 415 HP ecoboost engine will be available in the MKS in 2010. Woohoo!

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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    Why would Cadillac respond to that?
    Lincoln is well beneath Cadillac anymore. Let Buick handle it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxb49 View Post
    Better than a Lincoln Town Car? Please. I don't care how many turbochargers the engine has, it's still a V6. I'm going to sit here and watch the entire luxury car segment drive off a cliff. In the mean time, I'll keep my Town Car.
    Yeah, because it would be hard for a V6 to out-muscle all 235 massive horses that the TownCar's current V8 puts out.

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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    Wow, That's even uglier then the $150,000 RR Phantom replica.

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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    I cant figure Lincoln out. They had a great car in the LS but just didnt have enough interior room. The trunk was also tiny. Then they release the HORRIDLY ugly MKZ to replace the LS segment. The worst rear end on the road. It is a glorified Fusion for Gods sake.

    The geniuses at Ford are a little late to the party with the Interceptor concept and the Lincoln MKR, which is a bad ass lookin mofo. They should have made the LS available with the supercharged 8 they were putting into the Jag S Type R. If they had I may still be driving a Lincoln and not the V.

    And they wonder why they are going broke. They cant even get a production motor over 300hp without a blower.

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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    Quote Originally Posted by MauiV View Post
    And they wonder why they are going broke. They cant even get a production motor over 300hp without a blower.
    lol and Cadillac has what again? Have you looked at the engines in the V lineup? Hell Cadillac is dumping the V8's and going with V6's and turbo diesels instead. What's the saying about people living in glass houses again?

    EDIT: And the LS was not a great car. Nice car, but not great by any means

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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    Ford has to blow an V8 to get 300.

    GM is getting 505 in the LS7 and 400 in the LS6/LS2

    The new ZR1? 625+ when the General decides to charge an 8.

    I get Fords on the Z plan price and STILL wouldnt buy one at a cut rate.

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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    Quote Originally Posted by MauiV View Post
    Ford has to blow an V8 to get 300.

    GM is getting 505 in the LS7 and 400 in the LS6/LS2

    The new ZR1? 625+ when the General decides to charge an 8.

    I get Fords on the Z plan price and STILL wouldnt buy one at a cut rate.
    Were talking about Lincolns and Cadillacs here.

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    Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?

    '04-'07 CTS-V = 400hp/400tq
    '06-up STS/SRX/XLR = 320hp/315tq

    ...and when they do decide to slap forced induction on them:
    STS-V = 469hp/439tq
    CTS-V = 550+hp/550+tq

    What does Lincoln have again? An "impressive" 235hp V8 mated to a two-ton-plus TownCar? That's not even competitive versus the bargain brands. The last V8 Cadillac with power that low was over 15 years ago!

    Hell, Cadillac has naturally aspirated V6's that out-perform pretty much anything Lincoln can bring.

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