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    GTO or CTSV?

    A friends friend just picked up a 05 GTO with exhaust and is claiming it could kill my 05 CTS-V with exhuast, Lingenfelter CAI, and short shifter.

    I'm thinking I shouldn't have any trouble with him but asking here before I embarrass myself.

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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    Considering you have the same engine, more after market mods, and a SERIOUSLY better looking car, I don't think you should have any problem...assuming of course you know how to drive haha.

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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    Quote Originally Posted by IceDigger View Post
    A friends friend just picked up a 05 GTO with exhaust and is claiming it could kill my 05 CTS-V with exhuast, Lingenfelter CAI, and short shifter.

    I'm thinking I shouldn't have any trouble with him but asking here before I embarrass myself.
    In theory (based on magazine road tests) you should win, but the margin is close. Thus, it will (would) likely come down to the drivers and the condition of the two cars (tune, compression, etc.)

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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    They are .1 of a second apart in the 1/4 mile. M/T ran 13.1 in the V and 13.2 in the GTO.

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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    I have an LS6 and he has an LS2. But yea, pretty much the same hp/tq I think.

    Considering you have the same engine, more after market mods, and a SERIOUSLY better looking car, I don't think you should have any problem...assuming of course you know how to drive haha.

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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    A friend of mine and I ran 4 consecutive passes side by side on the drag strip, he was in his bone stock '05 goat, and I only have a CAI and cutouts, the closest he ever came to me was 7 tenths and 4 MPH slower. Actually, now that I think about it, I had 7 runs that night, and he had 9. So we got some pretty solid numbers for the day. We were within 20 pounds of one another too when we rolled across the scales that night, I chalk it up to the fact that the GTO's have a 3.4X final drive ratio versus our 3.73. Bottom line is you should be able to take him provided you can get out of the hole without any problem.

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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Majick View Post
    ... I chalk it up to the fact that the GTO's have a 3.4X final drive ratio versus our 3.73. ...
    Gotta be the difference then.

    Would be nice to trade cars and see if driver-to-driver variability could be eliminated as an influence, too. Heck, maybe you're just a dang good driver!


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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    Theoretically you should win. The goat has a 4.32 rear and the pimp mobile has a 3.73 rear and the weight is 50 to 100lb difference. However, it really depends on the driver skills, the one with least bog or spin off the line will win. Ultimately, the one without the broken rear diff is the winner.

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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    Quote Originally Posted by IceDigger View Post
    I have an LS6 and he has an LS2. But yea, pretty much the same hp/tq I think.
    I thought 05's had LS1's they only started putting LS2's in the gto in 06'...same year they put LS2's in everything else.....I could be wrong though.

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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    CTSV should beat that

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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    Quote Originally Posted by rand49er View Post
    Gotta be the difference then.

    Would be nice to trade cars and see if driver-to-driver variability could be eliminated as an influence, too. Heck, maybe you're just a dang good driver!


    EDIT: BTW, where's Castle Rock? I'm gonna be in Winter Park over Christmas ... sans the V, however.
    Castle Rock is about 30 miles south of Denver proper, around 2 hours from Winter Park, or approximately 12 hours from Vegas, which is where I'll be over christmas!

    P.S. Nikon, '05 GTO's did get the 6.0 along with the C6.

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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    I beat an ls1 gto with a SLP exhaust no problem from a roll...

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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    Used to have an 05 GTO that 13.2 @ 108 stock. Should be a driver's race. Get rid of the torque management and you'll rule him in 3rd gear with your mods.

    Norm

    Quote Originally Posted by IceDigger View Post
    A friends friend just picked up a 05 GTO with exhaust and is claiming it could kill my 05 CTS-V with exhuast, Lingenfelter CAI, and short shifter.

    I'm thinking I shouldn't have any trouble with him but asking here before I embarrass myself.

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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    The GTO is what a 2 door Catera-V would have been (they share the same platform).

    The LS6 V beat the LS2 GTO in head to head magazine testing (I believe it was Motor Trend who had the comparison between the V, GTO, and SRT-8). Quarter mile strip will be close for sure, but meet him at a real track and you should walk him in the corners.


    Also remember that at the end of the day, you drive away in a Cadillac while he has a P.O.N.T.I.A.C.

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    Re: GTO or CTSV?

    Quote Originally Posted by IceDigger View Post
    I have an LS6 and he has an LS2. But yea, pretty much the same hp/tq I think.
    Yeah yeah, my bad, the 07s have the 6.0...i hear the 09 is supposed to get upgraded to the LS7...could just be a rumor tho

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