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Back to Basics - P0500 Vehicle Speed Sensor

Ok, I've posted about elctrical woes and so on , but, lets just see if we can bring the wealth of expertise here to help my woeful lack of knowledge!!

CODE 0500 - VEHICLE SPEED SENSOR A MALFUNCTION

The speed sensor on the transmission has been replaced and the wiring to iy, tested.

I have ABS, but no tracs, speedometer and cruise, (for those who don't know, the EBTCM has already been replaced).

SO, with a code 0500, where other than the transmission speed sensor would you look, can someone point me in the right direction???

Thanks, I urgently need to resolve this.

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Re: Back to Basics - P0500 Vehicle Speed Sensor

To be honest wouldn't have looked at the transmisson speed sensor at all as this feeds the auto box ECU only.

The speedo (and numerous other devices) get thier speed signal from the ABS/TC module which in turn gets its speed info from the rear ABS sensors eitehr side of the diff.....

Was thecode read from the ABS unit?

I need to check my fault code list (in fact I need to publish it!) to determine which one it is....
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Re: Back to Basics - P0500 Vehicle Speed Sensor ***Mark***

I would be so so so grateful if you could narrow it down from that code, to some degree my mechanic (and 100% me) is in the dark with this car, and while I trust him completely, he really could do with some insight.

When we read the code and it said VSS 'A', he questioned the supplier and was told only one sensor and on transmission so replaced it was.

If you can provide further detail, that wil be a big leap forward,

many thanks!!

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Re: Back to Basics - P0500 Vehicle Speed Sensor

So the codes were read from the ABS/TC module and not the auto box....

It might be worth having a quick look at the rear sensors in the mean time, the are mounted on the diff rear cover and pickup off the inner lo-bro joints on the end of the drive shafts (pic below) where there is a toothed section. Given them a good look over for excess crudd, damage etc (include the toothed wheel) and check the connectors which sit in little holders above the diff.

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Re: Back to Basics - P0500 Vehicle Speed Sensor

Are you sure its 0500.....I have no codes for this....

0050 is right rear speed sensor......0550 is ECU comms.....that is assuming that the codes for europe are the same as the US

We also need to know what ECU was being read (key info as 0500 is gearbox speed sensor....and you have a TC light so cold be reading the wrong ecu....!)
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Re: Back to Basics - P0500 Vehicle Speed Sensor

Mark et al,

The code is coming straight from the OBDII...

Read's...

P0500 - Vehicle Speed Sensor A Malfunction

Does this mean the ABS sensor explanation may no longer be valid?
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Re: Back to Basics - P0500 Vehicle Speed Sensor

The toothed rotors were checked and cleaned prior to the transmission sensor being replaced just to make sure, but the connectors which seem solidly attached have not been further investigated.
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Re: Back to Basics - P0500 Vehicle Speed Sensor

I suspect the wrong codes may be being read.....the ISO setup on this unit has a number of different ECU connections (K Lines)....

You need the ABS/TC ones....or try swapping the sensors for some off a breaker...
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Re: Back to Basics - P0500 Vehicle Speed Sensor

Mark, forgive my ignorance, this is not my area at all.

So, the CEL thrown up could be misleading, and the issue could well the sensors?

When you say try grabbing some from a breaker's, do you mean the electrical connector or the whole toothed thing? Sorry to be such a pain, but I am at a total loss, and this comes with a huge THANKS for all this advice.

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Re: Back to Basics - P0500 Vehicle Speed Sensor

The sensors which you can see mounted on the rear of the diff casing are held in with a single torx bolt.......you could try simply geting a spare and systemticaly swapping them over.....

My concern is

A) What has been used to read these this fault code
B) From what device has the code been read.

Its quite feasable that the code reader used might have only read say the engine ecu, this is reporting no speed signal.....whic is understandable given the TC/ABS unit isn't ouputting one!

Its frustrating for me because I know that if the car was put onto a Tech2 with the right person driving it, you could get a correct diag within 30 mins tops.....!
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