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Old 04-21-08, 01:10 PM
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Unhappy 97 Catera - suddenly wont start

went out to go to work this am...and it wont start!

it makes a winding sound and if I keep the key turned long enough, it kinda starts making a chug chug, like its trying to turn over....

my husband is suggesting either a battery or a starter or something like that...but, when I turn the key, the radio and dash lights all come on just fine, and I think my grandmother put a new battery in just before she gave it to me last year....

my husband is also saying maybe the computer is bad....probably because of the other problems which may or may not be related to this...Passenger side heat/defrost blows cold only, light strip that goes across the back of the trunk is out on the passenger side, drivers side seat warmer isnt working, Door locks & Alarm system dont function if it gets below 50 degrees outside, and most recently the sunroof is malfunctioning...randomly opening and shutting and going back and forth by itself....


any ideas?
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Old 04-21-08, 01:48 PM
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Re: 97 Catera - suddenly wont start

Yes. A lot of other minor problems that are not related (and probably NOT computer more likely loose parts or loose / corroded connectors), and a car that won't start.
A winding sound? Is it turning the engine over at normal speed, making a high-pitched spin noise without moving the engine, or chattering? With key ON where is the voltmeter gauge?
Not a lot to go on here.
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Old 04-21-08, 01:56 PM
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Re: 97 Catera - suddenly wont start

lakesidepark (fellow Rush fan?) yes, the high pitched spin noise....and if I hold the key there, eventually it'll kinda make the chug chug of the engine tuning over....but it never does.....

I'll go see what the voltmeter guage says...hang on......
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Re: 97 Catera - suddenly wont start

ok with the key in the on position, right now its nearly at the red line...low...but earlier when I first tried to start it, it was a little higher....I've tried to start it over 10 times now

got a new noise this time when I tried to start it....while the spin noise and the chug chug were going...I got a grinding noise too.....gah!
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Re: 97 Catera - suddenly wont start

yeah I might have to go with battery low.
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Old 04-21-08, 03:30 PM
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Re: 97 Catera - suddenly wont start

After 10 tries and no start, I am sure your battery is discharged by now and won't start the car. See if the car will start with a jump. Best to call AAA if you belong, but another car will do if not. If it starts, take it immediately to have the battery and charging system (alternator) checked out. I've had a Catera for over 11 years, and many batteries and alternators in that interval. Best to start simple.
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Old 04-26-08, 07:15 PM
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Re: 97 Catera - suddenly wont start

Well, it finally happened to me. I have never been afraid to jump in my Cat and ripoff a 400 mile day. Now I'm not so confident. Last night I went out for a bite and she dies while backing out of the parking spot. When I started her in the garage she stalled. I thought I just hadn't kept the starter on long enough. The engine caught quickly the second time and off we went. There were a few stops before the diner and she started fine each time.

When she did die there was no CEL but the Sport light (s inside a cog) was flashing. I have a ScanGauge installed and immediately checked for codes. There were none. Still, from hanging out here and learning, I'm sure it was the CPS. The engine would crank strongly. I replaced the battery 2 months ago for an unrelated reason so I'm sure it wasn't that. I pushed the car back into the spot and checked under the hood for anything obvious. Not knowing which cable was the CPS I wiggled as many as I could. After 15 minutes I tried again and she fired right up. The Sport light was still flashing.

Not wanting to tempt fate and try a restart I headed for home. The transmission was in limp-home mode and engaged only 3rd & 4th gears. Highway performance was normal. Once back in my garage I shut her off and back on again. The engine started fine, this time with no flashing Sport light. I took a lap around the neighborhood and everything was back to normal. I'll have my local mechanic change it. I know it's an easy job but it's too cold for me to lay on an unheated garage's floor. I'm due for a car inspection and oil change. The sensor mounts next to the oil filter so while the car is up on the lift he can change it easily.

I hope my snap diagnosis is correct but I'll be renewing my AAA membership just in case. One more thing. As I checked old posts for CPS info I found a reference to the Fuel Cap Alarm being related to the CPS. I have been seeing the FCA intermittently for at least 6 months. I can't say for sure but if you get the Fuel Cap Alarm it could be a warning sign of a future CPS failure.
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...ing-light.html (99 Catera "Fuel Cap" warning light comes on)

UPDATE:

I wanted to put an ending to this story. I just finished an 900 mile weekend with my new Crankshaft Position Sensor and the engine never skipped a beat. It started every time. No stalling. No codes. Nothing. Thanks to the information here I was able to save myself the frustration of dealing with clueless service techs. I ordered the part, handed it to the service manager, they installed it, and that was that. I was a little nervous during the first 30 miles of test drives before the weekend trip but after that I stopped staring at the gauges. Except for the speeding ticket I got (81 in a 65 zone) it was an uneventful trip.

It just turned 68,000 miles this weekend. After rooting around the engine and tracing the CPS cable I don't think the sensor actually wears out. It's the cable itself that's the problem. It passes very close to the left hand exhaust pipe and the oil cooler lines. I think the heat damages the sheathing (either melts it or cracks it) and shorts the sensor leads. I forgot to ask for the old part so I don't know which. Even though the cable has heat shielding, the farther away from the those heat sources the better.

GM/ACDelco PN= 90494182
BOSCH PN= 0261210

Dealer cost for the cps is $77.00 Canadian + 2 hours labor @ $102/hr.
I copied this from another post. It sounds like you may have the same problem. Good luck!
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Re: 97 Catera - suddenly wont start

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Well, it finally happened to me. I have never been afraid to jump in my Cat and ripoff a 400 mile day. Now I'm not so confident

..........<SNIP>............

It just turned 68,000 miles this weekend. After rooting around the engine and tracing the CPS cable I don't think the sensor actually wears out. It's the cable itself that's the problem. It passes very close to the left hand exhaust pipe and the oil cooler lines. I think the heat damages the sheathing (either melts it or cracks it) and shorts the sensor leads. I forgot to ask for the old part so I don't know which. Even though the cable has heat shielding, the farther away from the those heat sources the better.

GM/ACDelco PN= 90494182
BOSCH PN= 0261210

Dealer cost for the cps is $77.00 Canadian + 2 hours labor @ $102/hr.
I copied this from another post. It sounds like you may have the same problem. Good luck!
The above tale was mine. Glad it helped you.

Elvin

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Re: 97 Catera - suddenly wont start

Sorry, Elvin....I'm new to cut /paste and didn't know how to direct to your original post.
Thanks for your original post.
It saved me time and money and I wanted to pass along.
Thanks AGAIN!
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