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Okay, some daytime pictures. I'm at about a 1/2 tank of gas.

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front passenger:







rear passenger:


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Re: Suspension conversion kit for catera?

Thats not bad at all, I think I like it... cheap springs a little bit less drop then all the other aftermarket ones, that cost a few hundred dollars.... no real issues with negative camber as the ride is still quite close to the OEM...

I think I might try this...


How easy were the rear springs to remove?
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Thats not bad at all, I think I like it... cheap springs a little bit less drop then all the other aftermarket ones, that cost a few hundred dollars.... no real issues with negative camber as the ride is still quite close to the OEM...

I think I might try this...


How easy were the rear springs to remove?
They were a bit of a pain. You definitely need spring compressors. It took me a few hours by myself.

I don't know if you've done any work on the front end, but the fronts were way easier than the rears.
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Re: Suspension conversion kit for catera?

A year or two ago I did full suspension swap on my Neon at my dads shop and it was fairly easy as they have all the tools, lift... etc.

Now for the rear do you just take the shock absorber off... and then tilt the control arm out to get the spring out or is there more involved?
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A year or two ago I did full suspension swap on my Neon at my dads shop and it was fairly easy as they have all the tools, lift... etc.

Now for the rear do you just take the shock absorber off... and then tilt the control arm out to get the spring out or is there more involved?
I just used spring compressors that you rent from auto parts store. It probably isn't the easiest way, but you don't have to mess with the control arm or the rear axle mounts. I did the rears about a year ago, and that was my first suspension work I've ever done, so, take my advice for what it's worth.

Here's what my manual says for the rear spring replacement:


Coil Spring Replacement
Removal Procedure


2. Remove the retainers from the lower control arms.



3. Remove the brake pipes from the lower control arms. The brake system will remain closed.



4. Remove the stabilizer shaft link bolts.
5. Remove the stabilizer shaft link from the lower control arms.
6. Remove the exhaust system rubber insulators from the hangers. This will allow the exhaust to drop out of the way.
7. Support the exhaust system. DO NOT allow the exhaust system to hang freely or pipe and/or gasket damage may occur.




8. Remove the rear wheel speed sensor electrical connections.

Important

Support each lower control arm when removing the shock absorber lower mount bolt to compensate for the pressure on the shock absorber mount from the spring.



9. Remove the shock absorber lower mount bolts.
10. Remove the support from the lower control arms.
11. Using a transmission jack support the rear differential.



12. Remove the rear axle cradle mounts to the vehicle body bolts.
13. Lower the rear differential until the springs can be removed.



14. Remove the rear springs with the spring seats attached.
15. Remove the spring seats from the springs.
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Re: Suspension conversion kit for catera?

I have Intrax on my Cat. The car sits right on top of wheels- there is basically no gap. Dropped the front by 1.6", rear 1.4". I may post some pictures if interested.
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I have Intrax on my Cat. The car sits right on top of wheels- there is basically no gap. Dropped the front by 1.6", rear 1.4". I may post some pictures if interested.

Yes please, I am dying to find out more about those springs... it said 1.6/1.4 measured from when vehicle was new... meaning no spring sag..

SOme said that it will be less then that if the car has lets say 100k...

How is the ride on it?

I want to drop it a bit but not to where the wheels are in the fenders...


My driveway has a very steep approach... and its barely clearing it now... much lower then that it will be scraping like crazy..


Please do post some pics...

THanks in advance..
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Re: Suspension conversion kit for catera?

No problem. The ride is different. But I also put new struts in at the same time. It seems kinda jumpy, or bouncy. It responds quickly and settles down right away. Otherwise, it's a whole lotta fun

P.S. I will post something else I did to my car that will make you DIY guys love me for the rest of your Catera ownership

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Re: Suspension conversion kit for catera?

Cant wait man! Lets see it!
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Re: Suspension conversion kit for catera?

Lets see it x2
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Re: Suspension conversion kit for catera?

Well, it has been raining, so sorry if the pictures didn't come out very clear
Let's start with the REAR wheel

FRONT wheel

Back angle

Front angle

From the rear next to my stock Catera (HINT: look at the rearview mirrors )

From the front next to my stock Catera (HINT: same as above)

Since I have only seen only one strut bar on a Catera- the Lingenfelter version- I decided to experiment a little bit myself. I didn't even think that it would make ANY difference, but to my greatest surprise, it did. Even with old factory struts it felt like I had new ones.


Aannnddd, I took one step further to even it out and complete the setup


The rear end was even lower. Probably because I have GTO shocks. I raised it up a little bit with some polyurethane bushings from Energy Suspension.

What do you guys think?

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Well what can I say, you beat me to it... the front strut brace out of the GTO works as well... didnt know you can install a rear one too?

WOW Congrats!
Good man!


I see you got the same exhaust tip as the one I had on my car back in the day... and the car looks mean like that, I think you can add some rear spacers to widen out the back a bit so it fills up the fender better...

Now the only thing I am afraid is that if I lower it that much it will rub on the fenders... as my wheels/tires have smaller offset then most of the OEM wheels and thus they stick out a bit farther...

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Re: Suspension conversion kit for catera?

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Well what can I say, you beat me to it... the front strut brace out of the GTO works as well... didnt know you can install a rear one too?

WOW Congrats!
Good man!
Sir, You are wrong. GTOs do not have a rear strut bar. The one in the rear of my car is the FRONT strut bar off the GTO. The front strut bar came off a 3rd gen Eclipse (2000-up) With some (read: cutting off 2 mounting points, and bending, bending, bending...) modifications it fits. The GTO front strut bar was a pretty easy fit for the rear, with some minor bending and a little bit of cutting.
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Re: Suspension conversion kit for catera?

I bought one of these right out of the website..I think it was 58$ and some change for shipping... and its sititng home waiting for me to get off my but and put it on...

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I see you got the same exhaust tip
Nothing past the exhaust valve is stock on my exhaust...
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