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    I'm a new BLS owner - just a need to know....

    I dnt know if any1 can help me as I'm really stressed?
    I bought this car yesterday & even though when I took it 4 a test drive everything was fine.
    I got in 2day to take it to work & the engine light is on & every time I pull off or stop it beeps 3 times at me & says service I also think its going in2 limp mode sometimes is it the egr blocked?? Any advice please would be a great help as I'm tearing my hair out I did lots of research saying that this was a really realise car especially out of all the bls version

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    Hi I just wondered if this site was 4 all Cadillacs as I'm British & own a 2006 bls 1.9 td sport yesterday? I'm having a few issues but with being a women I dnt wanna get ripped off with garages for the issues I'm having with it.
    Any1 help me please

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    Hi I just wondered if this site was 4 all Cadillacs as I'm British & own a 2006 bls 1.9 td sport yesterday? I'm having a few issues but with being a women I dnt wanna get ripped off with garages for the issues I'm having with it.
    Any1 help me please

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    Re: Hi im new just a need to knw....

    I'll copy your post to the BLS forum (up in Past vehicle Discussions) and leave the original redirect down in the Lounge for a day or so. I see that you also have a post in the Other Engines forum ................ moved here (that forum is little used.)

    Welcome to the Funny Farm !!!!

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    Where's that I'm on an iPhone and can't seem to find anything about bls forum anywhere on this site??
    Thank u

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    Scrap that lol I've done all the hard work 4 me lol!! Thank u 4 doing that I love the car n how it drives I'm just worried that its something major but I've found 2 local mechanics that seem to knw about them & their diagnosis kit works.....thank god!! But obviously dnt wanna get ripped off my partner is a mechanic but it was yrs ago he work in a auto part shop so he's bought some egr cleaner to c if that flushes it out but who knwz :s
    I did lots of research about these cars & read they r basically Saab 93 under the shell so part prices are pretty cheep is this correct?

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    Re: Hi im new just a need to knw....

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    ....I did lots of research about these cars & read they r basically Saab 93 under the shell so part prices are pretty cheep is this correct?
    Hi and welcome.

    It would be useful to know a few things. Firstly, roughly, where in the UK are you?
    How many miles has the car done? This could have an impact on things you might need doing.
    You are correct in that the car is pretty much a Saab 9-3 under the shell. It shares many components with the Saab both mechanically and electrically.

    The engine in 1.9 Tid guise is a Fiat engine used in Alfa Romeo's, Fiats, Vauxhall and a Suzuki model. You must ensure that the cambelt and waterpump have been changed in the last four years or at any mileage not exceeding 60k in the last four years. If you have no service sheets showing this, my recommendation is that you have it done because if the waterpump should be leaking or start leaking, it will shred the cambelt and cause damage which will be costly to rectify. As the engine is effectively a Fiat engine, yes, parts are reasonably cheap. As far as servicing is concerned, for the 1.9 engine, any GM Vauxhall garage can service the car to a good standard because the engine is shared in the Vectra. I last used an independent Fiat specialist who changed my cambelt and waterpump. The cost including a full coolant change shouldn't be any more than about £370.

    Yes, the EGR should be cleaned at least every six months as it will clog, though this in part can be reduced by putting decent fuel in the car. Also, ensure the fuel filter has been changed. There is a revised gasket for the EGR available from Fiat dealers which helps prevent sooting of the EGR. It is worth buying, costs about £6.50.

    Check your front coil springs aren't pitted or broken. If they are pitted or heavily corroded, they will snap.

    Check your air conditioning is working properly, i.e. it should be very very cold on the coldest setting. If it isn't, an aircon service (£50) will be required. Most people just completely forget about the aircon. If your windscreen doesn't demist properly in the morning, that is a sure sign it isn't working as is unusual smells.

    Diagnostically, yes, some mechanics can do basic checks on the BLS engine management system with readily available diagnostic scanners and can switch off certain error codes, but they will not have access to Cadillac Tech 2 software for updates. The only places in the UK that have Tech 2 for the BLS are Baur Millett in Manchester or Evans Halshaw at Wavendon, Milton Keynes.

    My overall advice is, make sure the car has been serviced properly, i.e. full oil and filter change, fuel filter and other general service items such as brake discs and pads.

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    Hi

    It's 2006 1.9 tid sport it's done just over 80000. It's booked in 4 a full service on Wednesday & their going to try & diagnose it & c what's wrong. They seem to know a lot about this car which I was impressed with as none of the other garages did round me so I travelling a bit 2 use them.
    My partner was a mechanic & works for an auto garage suppliers which they have given him some egr cleaning fluid to try that as well.
    The chap said he had changed the Cambelt at 70000 miles but I'm guessing it would b a good idea to c what the garage thinks when I take it down. It's had an mot April 24th & had a bit of work done then.
    I will say its a lovely car & would like to keep it 4 at least the next 3yrs but what kind of problems do they tend to get?? Are they reliable??
    Someone I knw has the same as mine & has done 280,000 miles has had hardly any wrk & prefers it 2 his sports cars & best of all still going strong even now
    Just would have preferred not 2 have it less than a day & end up with it being in the garage if he had been honest & said that it needed a service n the egr needed doing I wouldn't of minded as I was gonna do it anyway!!
    I'm midlands by the way.
    By the way it beeps at me 3 times when I'm at a standstill 2 pull off etc saying service is the bleeps warning me about that??
    Thanks nikki

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    Re: Hi im new just a need to knw....

    Thanks for the bit of history on the car. I've owned my own 1.9 BLS from new. I bought it just over four years ago and the car is fantastic.

    At 80k, the mileage is good for the year. If, and it's a big if, the car has been looked after, it should give few problems. You say you were told the cambelt was changed at 70k? Do you have proof of this? Any paperwork, receipts for parts? Not only that, if only the cambelt was changed and the waterpump wasn't, there is cause for concern. The waterpump, especially pre-2009 were apparently prone to failure. If the waterpump leaks, it drips onto the rubber cambelt and causes it to shred. This will in turn cause the rocker arms to break on the engine. The rocker arm design is a fail safe to prevent total engine failure. Fiat uprated the impellor/bearing during 2009 and should therefore be more reliable. In February this year, I had my own cambelt and waterpump changed at 30k. My cambelt was deteriorating through cracking, but worse, the waterpump was leaking, only slightly, but it could only have got worse. My car was built in 2008, but the engine was built in 2007 and so the waterpump would have been the older spec. I replaced both cambelt and waterpump with genuine Fiat parts bought from a Fiat dealer. Again my advice would be, if you haven't any proof of it being changed, I would get it done as soon as possible with a full coolant change.

    As far as the EGR is concerned, because your car is a 2006 model, it will in all likelihood have the original EGR. Pierburg, the maker of the EGR valve, uprated it sometime in 2010 I think. I bought a new EGR valve, the uprated one, fitted the Fiat gasket and I haven't had a problem since.

    Because the car uses fairly generic General Motors parts, getting mechanical parts isn't really a problem. The problem is getting bodywork parts. Saab made the car in Sweden on the same production line as the Saab 9-3. I am unsure what arrangements were made for body panel items, but if you suffer any significant body panel damage, you could be looking at a write off because insurance companies will not pay out. I know this because there have been one or two former owners who used to frequent this site who suffered fairly minor accident damage and their cars were written off, so drive carefully!

    You say the car 'beeps' at you? In the dash display, does it say 'Time for Service'? If it does, then this can be reset easily with a procedure which I can give you if that is what your problem is. My concern is, if it does say 'Time for Service' has the car actually had a proper service recently? Any garage worth their salt would know how to reset the service indicator as it is the same for the Saab 9-3.

    Reliabilty overall? Well any car is only as reliable as the effort you put into looking after it. My car is probably the most over serviced well looked after car I know, oil/filter changes every 7000 miles without fail. A yearly service. I too live in the Midlands but I go to Milton Keynes once a year to have the car serviced at an authorised Cadillac service centre. It gets hooked up to diagnostics and serviced to a very good standard.

    Finally, if you get any knocking sounds coming from the suspension it will be either broken coil springs or worn drop links. The drop links are easy to replace, the coil springs require the suspension struts to come out, an easy job if you are a good home mechanic. A grinding noise from the steering when turning the wheel might indicate worn top mount bearings (these are part of the shock absorber/coil spring strut).

    If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask.

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    There's no knocking at all drives as smooth as anything....I thought my megane was a nice drive but I was sooooo wrong lol!!
    I've looked through all the work that he carried out n he's had a lot done looks like previous problems in 2012 had an ecu corroded wire which was fixed by Bauer millet in Manchester which is a cadillac specialist.
    Aprils mot says he has anti roll linkage fixed tyres etc! He had in 2012 air con done.
    The problem is he was in the army as an engineer so said all the wrk he cud do he did. He did seem a bit OCD wen it came 2 his cars n he's being posted in Africa so that's y he was selling.....could all b bullshite but deff in army as he left his badges in the car? But I deff want it checked as I'm worried that he's not as he says even though we had been talking for a week plus & did tell me how 2 fix my megane as it had decided to break down & saved me £100's from the garage.
    I'm hoping the garage will b able 2 reset the time for service notice wen they do the full service if not is it the same way as the Saab 93 to do??
    I'm gonna get them 2 check Cambelt etc my partner can order all the engine parts as like I said he work in an auto garage shop so bonus even gets discount lol!! Plus he was a mechanic & can do all the little parts like filter changes etc but not the computerised bits!
    I've said 2 the garage I want it all checked over & booked in Wednesday morning. I don't mind spending as long as I knw he will last.....yes I've decided the bls is to butch to b a she
    I keep cars for 3+ years normally. I ddnt get my last car serviced as it wasn't worth it with it but this 1 I want 2 take care of this time not that I ddnt with the other & if I'm honest engine wise my megane served me very well shame about the electric problems otherwise I wudnt of sold her also needed something bigger than a hatchback n no way was I having a brain numbing mondeo like every1 wanted me 2 get

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    Re: Hi im new just a need to knw....

    Lol! Well I doubt there are many female BLS owners in the UK, there are as far as I'm aware, only about 500 BLS's in the UK. Quite a few have gone to scrap already so when one comes up for parts, they can be a good find. My missus likes driving mine, really quite female friendly as the well weighted power steering makes it a synch to drive.

    Yes, the reset for service is the same as the Saab 9-3 diesel, so it shouldn't be an issue. If you need to find out how to reset it, just put in Cadillac BLS or Saab 9-3 Time for Service reset and you'll find it.

    On the service, make sure the pollen filter is changed, fuel filter and usual oil and filter.

    I realise it is all money involved in fixing, but to be honest, if you intend keeping the car for a while, it could well be worth the initial outlay.

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    Haha that's sounds about right that I'm 1 in the minority then :s
    Did get a few funny looks wen they realised it was a women driving round in it same as the garage seemed quite taken back it was mine aim 2 shock that's me!!
    I'm thinking I'm just gonna change the Cambelt while its in cuz I'm now really unsure about being able 2 trust the chap I bought it from even though like I said he's spent hundreds over the past few yrs on it.....but u never knw n if I'm good 2 the car I'm hoping he will b gud 2 me.
    Do u knw the funny thing was I drove it about half a mile down the road from my house & there parked up at the side of the road was a silver bls....wot are the chances??
    Thank u for all ur advice and hopefully ill get it back in the road by the end of next wk....lots of crossed fingers!
    If I have any more qs ill post on here

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheekygirl1982
    Haha that's sounds about right that I'm 1 in the minority then :s
    Did get a few funny looks wen they realised it was a women driving round in it same as the garage seemed quite taken back it was mine aim 2 shock that's me!!
    I'm thinking I'm just gonna change the Cambelt while its in cuz I'm now really unsure about being able 2 trust the chap I bought it from even though like I said he's spent hundreds over the past few yrs on it.....but u never knw n if I'm good 2 the car I'm hoping he will b gud 2 me.
    Do u knw the funny thing was I drove it about half a mile down the road from my house & there parked up at the side of the road was a silver bls....wot are the chances??
    Thank u for all ur advice and hopefully ill get it back in the road by the end of next wk....lots of crossed fingers!
    If I have any more qs ill post on here
    Oh & there's a bls 1.9 black being broken on eBay at the mo if that helps any1?

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    Re: Hi im new just a need to knw....

    Quote Originally Posted by cheekygirl1982 View Post
    I'm thinking I'm just gonna change the Cambelt while its in cuz I'm now really unsure about being able 2 trust the chap I bought it from even though like I said he's spent hundreds over the past few yrs on it.....but u never knw n if I'm good 2 the car I'm hoping he will b gud 2 me.
    Please make sure you change the waterpump with the cambelt. The tensioners should be changed too. The whole lot is located in the same area and not changing these items will cause you problems in the future. Please see the following links:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-FG...item3cdb99ed3b

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saab-9-3-2...item258cd79675

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    Well update

    Garage has had it hooked up no faults found so just looks like the diagnostic light was due 2 needing a service.
    They have checked Cambelt & water pump everything was changed like he said at 70000miles ish. File pump needed changing he said that was a bit buggered and he's having the erg filter off 2 c if that is clogged but doesn't know yet? I get it back Wednesday fully serviced yay
    Good thing is he says the car & engine is A class & has been really looked after so looks like I've got a good 1....fingers crossed anyway but at least that's a weight off my mind now
    Also been treated by the other half 2 lots of good cleaning products (1 bonus him working in a garage store) so determined to keep it as good as new like the previous owner
    Thanks for all the advice
    Nikki

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    Re: Hi im new just a need to knw....

    Quote Originally Posted by cheekygirl1982 View Post
    Well update

    File pump needed changing........
    Nikki, I'm assuming here you meant fuel pump? If so, that can't have been cheap? Or has he sourced one from a Vauxhall or Saab?

    Anyway, glad you've got things sorted. Looked after, these are great cars with a rarity that few marques enjoy. I don't see another BLS often for several months at a time, and I can do a 300 mile trip without ever seeing another one, but when there's less than 500 of them in the UK and 30 million cars on the road, it's hardly surprising!

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    Yeah meant fuel pump 4 sum reason my iPhone changed it? I'm awaiting the bill from the garage lol!!
    Ha I went 1/2 mike down the road & there parked up was a bls same as mine....wot r the chances?? I thought sum1 was playing a joke on me n moved my car there haha!!
    The 1 worker from the garage does a lot in America & he says these are a common as anything so he has sources 2 get thing imported but they said that there's a breaker down the road that they think has 1 if I needed any body parts? Just so glad I found this garage cuz like I said they seem to knw exactly wot they are doing which the other 5 garages had no idea.
    This garage was recommended by my cousin who has a business so they do all of his cars & personal ones! It's a bit out in the sticks n do have to travel but it seems worth it plus they r great chaps n seem reasonable price wise
    Just can't wait 2 get it back just worried now on how it'll do on mpg?
    Thanks
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    Re: Hi im new just a need to knw....

    Quote Originally Posted by cheekygirl1982 View Post
    The 1 worker from the garage does a lot in America & he says these are a common as anything so he has sources 2 get thing imported but they said that there's a breaker down the road that they think has 1 if I needed any body parts? Just so glad I found this garage cuz like I said they seem to knw exactly wot they are doing which the other 5 garages had no idea..........

    Just can't wait 2 get it back just worried now on how it'll do on mpg?
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    Nikki, firstly, I need to set you straight on what you have been told about these cars being 'as common as anything' in America. They are not. They were never sold there. I think the person who told you this is confusing the BLS with the Cadillac CTS. It is a very similar looking car, but it is markedly different and it is built in the USA. The body panels look similar, but that is where it ends. Nothing from the CTS will fit the BLS because the CTS is a bigger car. Please see the following link and you will see what I mean:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-CADIL...item4ad4aecc99

    As I've already informed you, mechanically, you won't have an issue getting parts because of the Fiat engine and GM gearbox/braking system shared in the likes of the Saab 9-3 and Vauxhall Vectra.

    As for mpg, with the 1.9 diesel, you should return an average of 38 to 44 mpg around town and at least 48 to 54 mpg on motorway runs. This will of course be completely dependent on how the car is serviced, i.e. the EGR valve must be kept clean, filters changed etc, etc. As a top tip, if you want the engine to run really well, fill the tank with Shell Nitro Diesel. My car performs superbly on it, more mpg, cleaner throttle response and it helps keep the fuel injection system cleaner.

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