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    Ls7 > ls3

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V is probably getting a twin turbo 3.6 liter V6

    what's a 5th gen alpha ?
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    Isn't the 5th gen Camaro based on a modified alpha frame?[COLOR="Silver"]

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V is probably getting a twin turbo 3.6 liter V6

    ok ... that makes more sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by M5eater View Post
    The Z28 doesn't interest you at all?

    I'm half contemplating another trade-in when those hit shelves.

    The thing comes standard with audio and a/c delete.
    Not for the $60k they are gonna want for it. Not including the inevitible market adjustment. Besides the z/28 is a track car. I need a commuter car.

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V is probably getting a twin turbo 3.6 liter V6

    Not for the $60k they are gonna want for it. Not including the inevitible market adjustment. Besides the z/28 is a track car. I need a commuter car.
    it's using some pretty revolutionary suspension. I bet it will be just fine as a DD, but I agree on pricing. I suspect this thing will be in the 65K range, maybe closer to 70K OTD. I need to find me a 2+2 to replace the corvette though.

    Damn thing is too impractical, and I'm an impulse buyer, which doesn't mix when I take it up to the outlet mall and realize 'oh, I can't buy this because corvette'.

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V is probably getting a twin turbo 3.6 liter V6

    when did you get rid of your V?

    I know the Z/28 is gonna be amazing. It's gonna be mopping up mustangs everywhere. And bet you are right. Probably closer to $70k. One of those blogs got a snippet from some supposed GM insider who said it will cost more than the ZL1.

    I am not sure I agree about it being a decent commuter car. It's gonna ride like a truck I bet. And those tires will be lucky to reach 15k miles. And that front spoiler; you will need a spotter every parking lot you enter.

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V is probably getting a twin turbo 3.6 liter V6

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH View Post
    when did you get rid of your V?

    I know the Z/28 is gonna be amazing. It's gonna be mopping up mustangs everywhere. And bet you are right. Probably closer to $70k. One of those blogs got a snippet from some supposed GM insider who said it will cost more than the ZL1.

    I am not sure I agree about it being a decent commuter car. It's gonna ride like a truck I bet. And those tires will be lucky to reach 15k miles. And that front spoiler; you will need a spotter every parking lot you enter.
    A couple of months ago.

    I know the Z/28 is gonna be amazing. It's gonna be mopping up mustangs everywhere. And bet you are right. Probably closer to $70k. One of those blogs got a snippet from some supposed GM insider who said it will cost more than the ZL1
    The GM person with jay Lenno mentioned that also. Maybe in a few years I might get lucky and pickup one in the mid 30s or low 40s, but I suspect they're going to be difficult to find. I would be shocked if they moved more than 2K of these annually.

    I am not sure I agree about it being a decent commuter car. It's gonna ride like a truck I bet. And those tires will be lucky to reach 15k miles. And that front spoiler; you will need a spotter every parking lot you enter.
    I'm sure it'll still be plenty harsh, but I bet no worse than a current gen c6z or ZR1. With A/C and a radio added back in, I can't imagine it being as unbearable as my miata I tried to drive around with poly bushings. We're still talking about a 3700lb car.

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V is probably getting a twin turbo 3.6 liter V6

    LS7 aside (and I admit that's a point that is VERY hard to push aside) I would rather build up the suspension on my SS than buy a Z/28. Pedders has pretty much a complete kit that will likely blow away the 1LE and even the Z/28 itself from a pure handling standpoint. But I would imagine their kit would be even worse for ride quality than either.

    What I would love to do is get rid of the SUV wheels and tires and go to a smaller wheel with a lower profile tire. Take about 2-3" off the overall diameter. And cut 150 lbs of unsprung weight in the process. That alone would improve both ride and handling. Problem is that I would have to change the rear end to compensate for the higher revs and fuel consumption.

    In the end, I will likely just wait for the Buick Grand National. If it's a ~$30k ATS turbo, I'm all in.

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    I would love the LS7 in the ATS-V and I would be willing to pay extra since it is a hand-built engine. If it is going in the Z28, it might make business sense, too. And the best part is that it wouldn't have the DOD and stop-engine-off crap. Paired with the TR6070, highway mileage could be in the mid-to-high 20's. Recall that the LS6 went into the first 2 model years of the initial generation of the CTS-V, so there's precedent. Then we wouldn't have to worry with the embarrassment of a buzzy 6 cylinder engine in a true "V."

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V is probably getting a twin turbo 3.6 liter V6

    Well that is just the thing. With the 6th gen Camaro coming, it doesn't make sense to put a big V8 in the ATS.
    Of course there is alot of talk of a revived GNX. If the ATS-V bows with a TT3.6, and then they bring on the GNX with the same engine, they will have to make sure the ATS-V has more power. At that point, either a higher output V6, or maybe then an LS. I just don't see it as they have stated they are competing with the M3, and an Alpha Camaro SS is coming soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH
    Well that is just the thing. With the 6th gen Camaro coming, it doesn't make sense to put a big V8 in the ATS.
    Of course there is alot of talk of a revived GNX. If the ATS-V bows with a TT3.6, and then they bring on the GNX with the same engine, they will have to make sure the ATS-V has more power. At that point, either a higher output V6, or maybe then an LS. I just don't see it as they have stated they are competing with the M3, and an Alpha Camaro SS is coming soon.
    Well, this is a good discussion and could go on for sometime, unless Cadillac decides to quit playing marketing games and gives its real customer base some meaningful information. The Frankfort show would be a perfect time. Ha haa! To say hello to BMW.

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V is probably getting a twin turbo 3.6 liter V6

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH View Post
    LS7 aside (and I admit that's a point that is VERY hard to push aside) I would rather build up the suspension on my SS than buy a Z/28. Pedders has pretty much a complete kit that will likely blow away the 1LE and even the Z/28 itself from a pure handling standpoint. But I would imagine their kit would be even worse for ride quality than either.

    What I would love to do is get rid of the SUV wheels and tires and go to a smaller wheel with a lower profile tire. Take about 2-3" off the overall diameter. And cut 150 lbs of unsprung weight in the process. That alone would improve both ride and handling. Problem is that I would have to change the rear end to compensate for the higher revs and fuel consumption.

    In the end, I will likely just wait for the Buick Grand National. If it's a ~$30k ATS turbo, I'm all in.
    In the end, if I do ever buy another car to replace the ATS and C4 I'm sure it'll be a 2SS or something as well, I've had a GTO/ Terminator on the brain for a while, but.. dead car brand vibes are hard to shake and the termi is rocking an interior and unibody from 96.

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