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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V - Twin Turbo V6

    when cafe gets to 50 mpg, they will figure out how to make cars lighter. more high strength steel, more aluminum, more plastic, hydroforming, etc.

    I have some plastic here at my shop, I don't know what it is, but it is military aerospace certified, and it's incredibly strong. I bet over the next 20 years, plastic starts replacing more and more steel.

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V - Twin Turbo V6

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH View Post
    ... more high strength steel, more aluminum, more plastic, hydroforming, etc.

    ... military aerospace certified ...
    Cha-ching.

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    Has anyone noticed in the last 3 years that every major model redesign has come with a significant price increase? Look at the Cruze versus a Cobalt. The new Sonic versus the outgoing Aveo. Even at BMW the redesigned Z4 took a huge jump.

    Cars are going to get more expensive here. The average family will start buying a Compact not a Mid-Size in the next 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0AT E03 View Post
    ... Cars are going to get more expensive here. ...
    Maybe we should be looking at a Spark-V.


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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V - Twin Turbo V6

    How about a Prius V?

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V - Twin Turbo V6

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    How about a Prius V?
    I thought the Lexus 200H was supposed to fill that gap?

    O wait.. it's a sports hybrid that still takes 10.4 seconds to get to 60..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rand49er View Post
    Cha-ching.
    right now, but like all technology, that will change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0AT E03 View Post
    Cars are going to get more expensive here. The average family will start buying a Compact not a Mid-Size in the next 10 years.
    Yeah, but they keep getting bigger. The Cruze is almost mid-sized. Look how much larger the Altima and Accord have gotten over the past few iterations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH View Post
    Yeah, but they keep getting bigger. The Cruze is almost mid-sized. Look how much larger the Altima and Accord have gotten over the past few iterations.
    Heck, even in this forum, the ATS-V has gone from 3600-3700 lbs to 3800-4000!

    Darn thing might be over 4200 by the time it makes to production.

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V - Twin Turbo V6

    I sure hope Cadillac has aimed high (very high), and I'm sure the ATS will be very good, but BMW is about to release the new 3-series (and that is bound to be better than what already is considered the top-in-class vehicle). Interesting times in the small sport touring sedan class; go Caddy.

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V - Twin Turbo V6

    Where is the Music Factory?

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V - Twin Turbo V6

    Quote Originally Posted by C&C View Post
    I sure hope Cadillac has aimed high (very high), and I'm sure the ATS will be very good, but BMW is about to release the new 3-series (and that is bound to be better than what already is considered the top-in-class vehicle). Interesting times in the small sport touring sedan class; go Caddy.
    Nobody is going to make a better 3-Series than BMW.

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    Where is the Music Factory?
    What are you talking about? Oh. C&C...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Cadillac View Post
    Nobody is going to make a better 3-Series than BMW. ...
    I bet the difference becomes vanishingly small very soon.

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    Re: Cadillac ATS-V - Twin Turbo V6

    I agree 100%. The only possible thing that really CAN happen (as far as I'm concerned) is a company like Cadillac making a vehicle "just as good" as the 3-Series - only being more luxurious or high tech. Then BMW would kind of be playing catch up...

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