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    The beast has blown

    Well my ATS took a shit Monday morning and blew up after getting the oil changed. As some of you may know I had reached the 455rwhp area and was very content with it. OK anyways back to the story...... Pulling out of neighborhood and made a u turn and got on it to make this really long stop light. Turbo spooled great and blown off valve made a little more noise than normal than BOOM!!! Sounded like I was dragging engine and exhaust and it totally locked up. They are saying they are not covering it because of the mods but the filled the oil about 2 inches over full line which can cause lock ups and total deviststion. iHuntV78 would you post the tsb info and other info for these awesome people. In the meantime at least I still have my V which is about to get a big upgrade

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    Re: The beast has blown

    When did you see the oil was over filled?

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    Re: The beast has blown

    Who/Whom did the oil change?

    I hate to say this but... I wouldn't honor the warranty either considering the mods and how it is driven. This engine was never designed to produce that much HP for any length of time and I would venture to say there are no forged parts in the engine.

    I have a 2010 Dodge Cahllenger that has lots of mods... but, none to the engine as I have a Lifetime Power Train warranty. Also, the 5.7 Hemi does NOT have any forged internals. Even with forged internals on the 6.1' and 6.4's there are lots of blown engines after adding boost.
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    Cadillac dealership did the oil change and there was about 8 1/2 quarts in there showing about and 1 1/2 higher on the fill line. I noticed once it locked up

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    Re: The beast has blown

    Quote Originally Posted by 400hpATS View Post
    Cadillac dealership did the oil change and there was about 8 1/2 quarts in there showing about and 1 1/2 higher on the fill line. I noticed once it locked up
    That really sucks. Technically, to deny your warranty claim they have to prove the mods were the cause of the blown engine. You can try to fight and probably lose, but like you said, all of that oil in the engine could definitely blow it.

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    Re: The beast has blown

    Usually you have to prove the mods didn't cause the problem. They will wait you out until you have given up or spent enough with your lawyer. Good luck!

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    Re: The beast has blown

    I had them change my oil yesterday . I should check the level . You bet .

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    Re: The beast has blown

    Bud you are in for a big pissing contest.... Mods or Dealer error? Yes, the Magnuson Moss Act basically says they need to prove your mods caused the failure.... You on the other hand have to prove the over filled crank case was done at the dealer and it caused the failure. You will also have to defend your mods and prove that they DIDN'T cause the failure. Yea, gulity until proven innocent... the bottomline is get a good lawyer.

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    Re: The beast has blown

    Looks like they gave me an extra qt .

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    Re: The beast has blown

    so there is a tsb for oil over fills?

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    Re: The beast has blown

    The only TSB (47-61-32B) I found for Overfill was to clear the oil pump releif valve. Generally speaking one qt over is not a hydo locking issue as you will have at least 1 qt or more in ciculation.

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    Re: The beast has blown

    Sorry to hear it.

    I may have missed it, but what did you do to get to 455 rwhp?
    Is there a 100 shot in there?
    If just boost, I want more details
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    Re: The beast has blown

    You have no chance of winning a case against Cadillac to not cover your warranty especially under such heavy modding, do yourself a favor and dont waste money on an attorney...Try and cut some sort of deal for the repairs with Cadillac instead

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    Re: The beast has blown

    You gotta pay to play. Hopefully its not too costly.

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    Re: The beast has blown

    I would start the conversation with the service manager about it. 8.5 QTS is a lot of oil. They warrantied DB outlaw when he was modded since the piston problem was a known defect. That much oil is a defect. Maybe you can to get a deal where they cover the labor and you the parts as a settlement if they wont fully fess up.

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