Just to clarify, Mike, I'm not trying to step on your toes, nor am I trying to be the know it all. I just have a sincere concern for this community and my own selfishness (my own personal car) to see this platform move forward. The work you have done is great and much appreciated by myself as well as numerous board members I'm sure. I am just trying to lend a hand (and ear) to what I am encountering, and what my experience is. I can only theorize what is happening, without datalogging, and diving in, but honestly, there is a reason I bought a plug and play vs HP Tuners, I simply don't have much time to play around anymore, I run my own business (non automotive related), that consumes massive amounts of my time, I left the auto world 4 years ago, and don't really wish to return as my current business is doing very well. Not here for a pissing match or to doubt your work, I simply want to share information with you and the community in hopes of furthering the development of this platform. BTW, I do not have experience tuning american factory ECU's, other than some mild playing with LS Edit on a C6 Z06 that we made 519 rwhp with intake and headers, my 1000rwhp experience stems from stand alone AEM EMS and old tech Halltech E series. I want to help, not hurt.