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    CTS tune for 35 LB/TF more torque

    Have been reading that the same 2.0 Engine in the CTS has a revised program that gives 295 LB/FT torque.
    Through creative advertising and maybe boost limiting programming they still show the HP at only 272,
    If the torque continued to 5500 like in the ATS it would be 308 hp.

    2nd thought :
    Just wondering if anyone has put on the Intake and Downpipe without doing the tune as well?
    Only had the car for a few days , but never satisfied.
    Looking for warantee freindly choices.

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    In the event of a major powertrain failure, I doubt GM would ignore a downpipe, especially a cat free one. Although you could pull it off before towing to the dealer.

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    Re: CTS tune for 35 LB/TF more torque

    In stock form, just like the LNF before it, the LTG calculates it's output and limits that to the factory levels. If you slap on mods and then drive around power might spike when they first go on, but it'll soon top out at the same as stock once the ECU "learns down".

    Makes it tough without voiding the warranty with a tune. Even an intake won't do much of anything .

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    Re: CTS tune for 35 LB/TF more torque

    I had an intake on w/o tune for over a week and noticed 0 power gains. All it did was change how the car sounded upon cold startup and at WOT.
    I drove with both an intake and catted downpipe tuneless for only a few short miles and at relatively low speeds. I didn't notice any performance gains. Almost felt like there was a slight performance loss.
    Based of my experiences, it isn't worth it to add parts w/o a tune. After the tune my car was night and day different.
    Regarding warranty, my dealer installed my downpipe and mentioned nothing about it voiding the warranty but I'm sure if there were a drivetrain problem, the aftermarket downpipe would be a point of contention.

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    Re: CTS tune for 35 LB/TF more torque

    When we get back from SEMA, I'm hoping to begin tune development on our ATS turbos. Our tools work a little differently than the rest in that we are not detectable by the factory tools. The method GM advises tech to use to see if a PCM has been tuned will show nothing after using one of our tuning devices, even if the tune is still in place.


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    No tune is undetectable period.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloMike View Post
    When we get back from SEMA, I'm hoping to begin tune development on our ATS turbos. Our tools work a little differently than the rest in that we are not detectable by the factory tools. The method GM advises tech to use to see if a PCM has been tuned will show nothing after using one of our tuning devices, even if the tune is still in place.

    That claim is a ridiculous lie. No tune is undetectable period. All the dealer has to do is to drive the vehicle, or if there is already a part failure they will send off the ECM to GM where a bit by bit comparison will be done.

    And no aftermarket company should be condoning warranty fraud. Pay to play.

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    Re: CTS tune for 35 LB/TF more torque

    Quote Originally Posted by db_outlaw View Post
    Regarding warranty, my dealer installed my downpipe and mentioned nothing about it voiding the warranty but I'm sure if there were a drivetrain problem, the aftermarket downpipe would be a point of contention.
    Not many dealers will remove with a part required for federal emissions compliance. Even if dealer installed, GM can still void the warranty if they dig their heels in on the issue.

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    Re: CTS tune for 35 LB/TF more torque

    What I am hoping for is a GM "Authorized" Upgrade.
    Similar to what was done with the Redline Sky and Solstice cars a few years back.
    You could have GM mechanics install the upgrade and boost the 250ish engine to over 300, with the warranty still intact.

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    Re: CTS tune for 35 LB/TF more torque

    I gotta do something my car seems slow .

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    Re: CTS tune for 35 LB/TF more torque

    Quote Originally Posted by JLGT View Post
    Those girls are going to get nose bleeds in those shoes especially jumping around like that.

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    Re: No tune is undetectable period.

    Quote Originally Posted by cadillacownersgroup View Post
    That claim is a ridiculous lie. No tune is undetectable period. All the dealer has to do is to drive the vehicle, or if there is already a part failure they will send off the ECM to GM where a bit by bit comparison will be done.

    And no aftermarket company should be condoning warranty fraud. Pay to play.
    The tune detection is looking into the PCM/ECM with the diagnostic tool and then it is looking at flash counts, nothing else. Some tunes are able to reset the count to where it was to begin. Mike does not lie.....in fact he is one of the pioneers in modern PCM tuning solutions, so I don't doubt for a second that he can do as he claims.

    Every time a PCM is flashed, it records this in the flash-counter parameter, which is a non volatile memory (is not lost when power is disconnected) so it is just a matter of cracking that table and the re-flash keeping it as it was (say there were 2 TSB re-flashes done and recorded on that VIN, it would need to show those 2 updates, but not say a 3rd that was the tune flash).

    Just drove a 2014 yesterday....awesome for a 2.0L engine! A tune should really wake this thing up.

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    Re: No tune is undetectable period.

    Quote Originally Posted by cadillacownersgroup View Post
    That claim is a ridiculous lie. No tune is undetectable period. All the dealer has to do is to drive the vehicle, or if there is already a part failure they will send off the ECM to GM where a bit by bit comparison will be done.

    And no aftermarket company should be condoning warranty fraud. Pay to play.
    Care to offer some facts to prove your case, or will this go down as 'some guy in the web said its a lie, so it must be'?
    LOL

    Do you understand what GM does to look for a tune? Do you understand that we have former GM calibrators on staff, who were part of the process that developed the CVN system, and that we were able to get around it easily? If not, all you had to do was ask, but stating that I am lying while you have no facts to back it up is rather irresponsible

    We have been offering tunes that are not detectable by the normal means for years, on all GM applications from CTSVs and Vettes to Colorados and Sierras. Nobody is condoning any sort of fraud...do you feel that tyouy should honestly lose your powertrain warranty because you used a flash device to correct your speedo for different sized tires, or to correct the stalling issue in GMs manual cals that they can;t seem to correct? All we do is make it so there is no giant red flag waving to the dealer to say you used a tuner. if you go to the dealer with the tune installed, and they manage to read it or send it to GM to be read out, sure, they can see the tune, it would be ignorant to assume otherwise. All we offer is the ability to hide the fact that you have flashed it and returned to stock. Nothing we offer can or will cause any damage that should lead to denial of coverage by any means, so why give them some blanket ammo to do so?

    I'm glad I got a reply from you, as your 3 post count shows you only post when its important
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    Re: CTS tune for 35 LB/TF more torque

    Good reply Mike.

    And the "I heard it on the internet so it must be true" is such a double edged sword for those that have an ulterior motive behind their posts. We battle it daily as well.

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    Re: CTS tune for 35 LB/TF more torque

    Diablo is one of the few companies i trust to provide a safe tune with improved drivability. These guys know what they are doing and wouldn't sacrifice safety just to beat somebody else's dyno number (even though they probably will beat it and be safe).

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