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    Pfadt ATS tune review

    After looking around for more power and some other parts for my Cadillac ATS 2.0T Turbo, I discovered Pfadt Racing, a forum sponsor, and their comprehensive line of aftermarket power adders, their EFR turbo kit, their tuning portfolio, and their comprehensive line of suspension components. I decided to give them a call and then found out that not only do their parts power the fastest ATS in the world, but they also had an install shop that is fairly close to where I am, so after checking out their local install shop, Late Model Racecraft and their dyno facilities, I placed an order for the Pfadt Racing tune for my ATS.

    Pfadt Racing is the industry leader in the corvette world for the best parts money can buy. Parts and tech from Pfadt racing power the fastest racers within the corvette racing world, and even GM's own look to the expertise of Pfadt racing for their power and suspension needs. I had previously only have heard of Pfadt's successful motorsport program within the corvette world, but then found out that they have dealers and install facilities located across the united states and other countries that are established corvette and Cadillac CTS-V specialists.

    Pfadt Racing is also an independent entity that manufacturers 100 percent of what they sell in the united states. Proudly Made in the USA.

    The Pfadt sales rep who answered my call was very professional, courteous, and I felt very comfortable placing an order from them. The Pfadt guy was very knowledgeable about just about everything I could have asked him on my car, and was never pushy and very pleasant altogether to talk to. Pfadt Racing is known in the corvette world as having the best customer service and feedback in the industry.

    When asked about the Pfadt tuning program, Pfadt Racing has a very strict and comprehensive quality assurance program that stipulates that each and every part must pass not only dimensional checks but also functionality checks for any deviation in workmanship, material, and even aesthetics, each part must even fall within the smallest fractions of weight deviation in order to pass Pfadt Racing's standards before being shipped to the customer.


    Despite having been testing the developed Pfadt Racing tune since January of this year, the Pfadt engineers felt that having tested their tune on no less than a dozen vehicle for a combined total of 200,000 miles were they then able to confidently sign off on releasing their tune, and despite having sold a lot of ATS tunes already, their customers are primarily corvette or cadillac customers that have an ATS as a second car, and usually not as active on the forums.

    I am reviewing this ATS tune from Pfadt with Pfadt team confident of their product and without prejudice either towards or against them, and my ATS is my daily driver. The Pfadt sales guy did ask me if I could find a dyno facility of my choice and then post on the forums what I thought of the tune, be it positive or negative.

    After seeing one of Pfadt Racing's ATS's claim the title of the world's fastest ATS I was ready to order and after a few days of waiting, UPS dropped off a Pfadt labeled box.


    I ended up picking Late Model Racecraft for their dyno facilities, not only because they are an industry leader in very high powered GM car builds, with most of their customers happily driving away with over 1000 horsepower, and even a few dodge vipers with 2800+ horsepower and sub 6 second quarter mile street cars, when I arrived at their shop, they had a line of Lamborghini Gallardo's, Dodge Vipers, CTS-V's, and ZL1 camaro's parked in front of their shop, what a sight!

    Jay the operations manager at LMR personally dynoed my car personally.



    The Pfadt Racing ATS tune was very easy to install and took no longer than 2 minutes total on a windows computer with a USB port. I would say that loading the tune was very straightforward and easy to use, even for the computer illiterate. The Pfadt Racing tune comes with a loader cable that allows you to return the vehicle to stock at any time.


    The car was run on the dyno without cooling off prior and only two runs were made with a total of 2 min between the two runs, the time it took for the tune to install.




    The dyno video and dyno graph are attached below.

    The dyno at LMR is a dynojet 248 that Late Model Racecraft calibrates every month, and in Houston the weather was a cool 94 F, and the dyno room was not air conditioned, it must have been 105 F + in there when we dynoed the car. No additional airflow was generated over the vehicle, what was in the dyno room was what it got, not even a large fan blowing towards the front of the vehicle, there were no fancy air feed system supplying cold air to the car.



    Only two runs were made because dyno runs are expensive and I did not want to pay for a bunch of dyno runs, what is shown is what I documented, stock vs tuned.

    My car is completely stock and has an automatic transmission, and therefore dyno numbers are going to be slightly lower than those of cars with manual transmissions.

    The Pfadt Racing ATS tune picked up power across the board, and picked up 55+ ft/lbs of torque at the wheels mostly in the area under the curve and gained me 32.21 peak horsepower at the wheels. At around 3750 RPM, the Pfadt Racing ATS tune picked up an astonishing 70+ HP at the wheels vs the car stock. No power was lost in vs stock even at higher RPMs with the Pfadt ATS tune, showing Pfadt's technical superiority vs all the others. I'm sure if the temperature was not as hot or that if the vehicle was allowed to cool between the runs for a longer duration, the tune would have picked up far more power to show for on the dyno sheet.

    On the street, the car feels like it is a totally vehicle, where as stock the car would occasionally hesitate and just not feel all that powerful, after the tune my car seriously feels like its a V8; with the Pfadt Racing ATS tune, the car is eager to please and always attentive to any throttle inputs, all the previous hesitation that the stock car felt is gone completely. The transmission shifts very crisp and very fast but never uncomfortable, almost like a dual clutch transmission with the Pfadt tune installed. I am absolutely happy with the results and would gladly recommend this tune to everyone.

    Interestingly, the Pfadt ATS tune looks like it runs slightly richer than the stock tune.












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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GxybkysWzM

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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    Awesome review! Pfadts tune looks solid, and nice gains even for sweltering tx heat. LMR is a top notch
    Facility as well. Wonder how much you'd gain with there down pipe/tune?

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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    I have their dp sitting in my house and their c-f intake arriving Monday, 7/22. I am going to wait to install the dp until I pick a turbo upgrade to do at the same time. Also want one of Pfadt's I-C's to really cool off the charged air. Not available for 1-2 months according to Pfadt.

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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    you're going to pick another turbo to put that downpipe on? hopefully it's the same exhaust flange in the exact same spot at the OEM.

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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    Always mod it for v-band.

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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    lol read like a very long ad. didnt feel natural at all...like pfadt wrote it themselves. not saying pfadt is bad or anything. im sure theyre great. but im a little picky with reviews. especially when they sound like paid reviews lol

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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    Quote Originally Posted by donavo View Post
    lol read like a very long ad. didnt feel natural at all...like pfadt wrote it themselves. not saying pfadt is bad or anything. im sure theyre great. but im a little picky with reviews. especially when they sound like paid reviews lol
    Like Hoosierdaddy's for KPE.

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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    Quote Originally Posted by mikesul View Post
    Like Hoosierdaddy's for KPE.
    almost lol. this one has way less character than hoosier's. at least it felt like hoosier wrote that other one himself. this one looks like pfadt just typed it up and the guy copy pasted it lmao.

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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    Quote Originally Posted by ATSFL View Post
    you're going to pick another turbo to put that downpipe on? hopefully it's the same exhaust flange in the exact same spot at the OEM.
    Yes, the upgraded turbo will match factory flanges and "just bolt on". I'm not sure of Pfadt's yet, but VTuner's is a bolt-on swap.

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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    this dyno graph looks pretty impressive, regardless of whether you think the OP's post is contrived or not. the aftermarket tune is pulling way less timing up top than OEM. then it appears that there isn't even a fan on the car for the pulls AND is hot in there; which is even more impressive.

    i hope the OP will give us some updates as the miles rack up - i want to know how the tranny deals with the extra torque.

    edit: and why is the video taking hours to be ready for viewing? i've been getting "This video is currently being processed." for a bit now.

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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    Quote Originally Posted by mikesul View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by donavo View Post
    not saying pfadt is bad or anything. im sure theyre great. but im a little picky with reviews
    Like Hoosierdaddy's for KPE.
    No worries guys, I'd like to stress a few points though:

    I'm located in Texas

    I picked a shop with a dyno that was recommended to me, but with their own stellar reputation to match, I did google them first before going

    I did not do a dozen or more runs, because the dyno runs were not free to me, the two are all that I got

    I purposely did not allow the car to be dynoed with air forced across the front so that what I got would not only satisfy my own concerns, but also that it represented the worst case scenario, and that it can only get better from here


    I can understand completely if sometimes it seems like though



    Quote Originally Posted by ATSFL View Post
    this dyno graph looks pretty impressive
    Thanks for the support, I worded this review up to stress what Pfadt Racing is like a vender because I was genuinely impressed with what I found with them

    I will definitely keep everyone posted on how things are going with my car, and for starters I've found that my MPG has shot up from 25.4 MPG to 26.8 MPG since the tune, what a pleasant surprise

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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    Don't take any flack for style ATSTurbo.

    Us long winded guy's gottta stick together.

    BTW, thanks for the sincerest form of flattery.
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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    OP - did you happen to record AFR and boost for both runs as well? i'd love to see that graph as well; i'm sure a few others would too.

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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    Wow stock numbers are shameful

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    re: Pfadt ATS tune review

    they're not that bad at all. that being said, i have no clue what the drivetrain loss is supposed to be, but if it's 20%: 218whp/0.80 = ~272 crank, and 234wtq/0.80 = ~292 crank. add in some negatives like the conditions(ambient temp) and octane(91 vs 93) and you've got a few more missing hp.

    overall a pretty good stock result i believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by derek98z View Post
    Wow stock numbers are shameful

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