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    brembo and tremec

    Did I read right? The NON-V ATS is going to get a manual trans from tremec and brembo brakes?

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    I am hoping neither the trans nor the diff is from getrag. Blah.


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    Re: brembo and tremec

    Yes. The FE3 has Brembos up front. The XTS even has Brembos. The Tremec tranny is because there was some issue with the ZF one, or so I heard.

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    Re: brembo and tremec

    What's with all these cars with brembos up front? Regal, Mustang, now the ATS? How much more could it really cost to add the smaller brembos to the back?

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    Re: brembo and tremec

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH View Post
    What's with all these cars with brembos up front? Regal, Mustang, now the ATS? How much more could it really cost to add the smaller brembos to the back?
    It's not really cost, but rather sizing. It's not needed, so they don't do it. Brembo doesn't make single piston calipers to my knowledge. The backs are almost certainly single piston.

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    The atsv better get 4 wheel brembo.

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    Re: brembo and tremec

    Does this mean that the current gen V6 Camaro could get this transmission too instead of the Aisin trucky transmission it has now.

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    Re: brembo and tremec

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    Does this mean that the current gen V6 Camaro could get this transmission too instead of the Aisin trucky transmission it has now.
    I doubt it. I think the Zeta Camaro has only 3 model years left. No reason to change a component supplier.

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    Re: brembo and tremec

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH View Post
    The atsv better get 4 wheel brembo.
    I expect the same 2piston front/rear that everyone has these days with the good aluminum hat rotors up front.

    What's with all these cars with brembos up front? Regal, Mustang, now the ATS? How much more could it really cost to add the smaller brembos to the back?
    like 0AT said, it's not needed, at all. The front brembos on all those mentioned cars are mostly there for some bling.

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    Re: brembo and tremec

    Cobalt SS/TC got brembo'". Unfortunately it's not that special anymore. From most reviews I read, and my experience, the sportier GM models always have good brakes even if they aren't brembo and are just OEM style.

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    Re: brembo and tremec

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH View Post
    Did I read right? The NON-V ATS is going to get a manual trans from tremec and brembo brakes?

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    I am hoping neither the trans nor the diff is from getrag. Blah.
    sorry-- didn't catch this before but;
    fyi; getrag makes the V2 rear diff. saw the logo on the 3.73 rear end this past weekend changing the gear oil.

    Right on the label; getrag. I almost loled while under the car.

    Cobalt SS/TC got brembo'". Unfortunately it's not that special anymore. From most reviews I read, and my experience, the sportier GM models always have good brakes even if they aren't brembo and are just OEM style.
    agreed. GM does brakes right on their performance cars every time.
    The brembo name is fairly widespread these days, but alloy calipers in general are on everything beyond the mundane sedan or econobox. When a 2.0T hyundai coupe sports brembos, you know you're not exclusive anymore.

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    Re: brembo and tremec

    In comparing the Camaro LT to the Camaro SS, I thought the LT (floating calipers) had better brake feel than the SS (brembo fixed calipers). Most tests showed the LT had a shorter stopping distance too. Considering the single biggest advantage of the brembos is fade resistance, and the fact that the Camaro is not a great track car, I have to wonder why they made brembos standard. I honestly would rather have the regular brakes, as they are quieter, cheaper, and allow a wider selection of wheels to fit. I was very close to replacing the brembos on my SS with the LT brakes, until I found some 18" wheels that clear the brembos.

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    Brake feel is relative. I think you're crazy. As for distances, how much more does the SS weigh?

    For feel, fade resistance, pedal modulation, ease of maintenance and more consistent pad wear, I'd go with the Brembos every time.

    You're so used to being a contrarian, you'll settle for crap to be different, Jimmeh.

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    Re: brembo and tremec

    if you say so

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    Re: brembo and tremec

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH View Post
    In comparing the Camaro LT to the Camaro SS, I thought the LT (floating calipers) had better brake feel than the SS (brembo fixed calipers). Most tests showed the LT had a shorter stopping distance too. Considering the single biggest advantage of the brembos is fade resistance, and the fact that the Camaro is not a great track car, I have to wonder why they made brembos standard. I honestly would rather have the regular brakes, as they are quieter, cheaper, and allow a wider selection of wheels to fit. I was very close to replacing the brembos on my SS with the LT brakes, until I found some 18" wheels that clear the brembos.
    I've found for inital bight, floating calipers are slightly better. For overall modulation and a linear feel down to full power braking however, alloy calipers are far superior. In my experience.

    Really though Jimmy? :P don't give me this crap you were going to ditch the brembos for some malibu calipers..

    As for distances, how much more does the SS weigh?
    for the Manual, it's between 80-100lbs difference between a manual SS and a Manual LT/LS

    for the Auto, it's about 150lbs.

    And the SS's have more than 1.5'' on the front and 2'' on the rear than the LS/LT's, so they have more than adequate brake clamping force increase to account for less than half a person's increase in weight.

    IMO, I would bet it's the master cylinder that that carried over from the LS/LT.

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    Re: brembo and tremec

    I was only considering it. And only briefly. And the only reason was because I wanted 18" wheels. There are only a few aftermarket 18" wheels that will clear the brembos. Thankfully there is a rep from Tire Rack who is active on Camaro5, and did the leg work for us, finding out which wheels will fit. Of course, I had to cut off the front caliper weights, which makes the brakes VERY noisy when it's above 80 or so. But that's another story.

    Besides, for street duty, the brembos are overkill. I doubt I will ever do a track day. I don't have the time for it. But they look sweet, fill up the wheels nicely, and I didn't want to give them up

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    Oh, and the LT and SS have different master cylinders. I checked. Not sure what is different though. Lots of guys with LTs have upgraded to the brembos without any issues.

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