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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    Fuelly. lulz.

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    i have a dump question.
    Will the cadillac 2.0 turbo can run in Regular fuel
    because it is impossible to find Premium fuel in here.
    i ask the question for my friend.

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    Quote Originally Posted by nguyennhatquang View Post
    i have a dump question.
    Will the cadillac 2.0 turbo can run in Regular fuel
    because it is impossible to find Premium fuel in here.
    i ask the question for my friend.
    I would safely assume that, that's been Cadillac's 'thing', that you can use regular fuel with most of their vehicles. Also, most F/I mainstream cars run 87.

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    I heard GM will make Cadillac is Global car. Is that info is correct ?
    this ATS will sell global or US and China only ?
    because my car i need to buy the GM MDI and diagnostic and fix it myself.

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    ATS will be sold in like 20 countries.

    Your MDI will work on it.

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    thanks, that is cool. It is not my car. i tried to advise my friend buy it instead of Mercedes C200 CGi.
    i don't have any luck with those German car.

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    Quote Originally Posted by nguyennhatquang View Post
    i have a dump question.
    Will the cadillac 2.0 turbo can run in Regular fuel
    because it is impossible to find Premium fuel in here.
    i ask the question for my friend.
    I highly doubt it. I'm sure Premium will be "recommended" as it is in the 2.0T in the Regal GS and lower output version in the CXL-T. If GM finds it acceptable to require premium for a Buick, they surely will for a Cadillac. Of course it will run on 87 at reduced power and be tuned conservatively enough to do so without damage.

    The only "mainstream" cars to my knowledge allowing 87 on an FI vehicle have been the Kia Optima/Hyundai Sonata, and there's been quite some discussion that the rated 274hp is either very optimistic, or garnered using premium.

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    Like I posted before in another thread: if the ATS is to compete with the 3-series; here is the BMW engine option list for the 3-series for comparison:

    3-series (F30)
    -Sedan
    -Coupé
    -Cabrio
    -Touring and
    -GT
    Petrol (only Turbos!):
    316i, 1,2 Liter, 3-cil, 125 PS
    318i, 1,2 Liter, 3-Cil, 150 PS
    320i, 1,6 Liter, 4-Cil, 175 PS
    323i, 1,6 Liter, 4-Cil, 200 PS
    325i, 2,0 Liter, 4-Cil, 225 PS
    328i, 2,0 Liter, 4-Cil, 250 PS
    330i, 2,0 Liter, 4-Cil, 275 PS
    335i, 2,0 Liter, 4-Cil, 300 PS
    340i, 3,0 Liter, 6-Cil, 350 PS
    M3, 3,5 Liter, 6-Cil, 450 PS
    Diesel:
    316d, 1,2 Liter, 3-cil, 125 PS
    318d, 1,2 Liter, 3-Cil, 150 PS
    320d, 1,6 Liter, 4-Cil, 175 PS
    323d, 1,6 Liter, 4-Cil, 200 PS
    325d, 2,0 Liter, 4-Cil, 225 PS
    330d, 3,0 Liter, 6-Cil, 250 PS
    335d, 3,0 Liter, 6-Cil, 300 PS

    BTW: the 316 and 318 get FWD!

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    We don't get all those engines. I think there's only three 3-series engines here. If they offered all those engines, people here would be too confused to buy a BMW.

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH View Post
    We don't get all those engines. I think there's only three 3-series engines here. If they offered all those engines, people here would be too confused to buy a BMW.
    True. This is the complete palette and the US will probably see only the 325i and up. Maybe also at least one of the diesels as diesel is gaining some demograph in the US and BMW is not missing the boat like GM is. (There is room for critisism here, right?)

    BTW, it is exactly the simplicity of the option list of US car brands that I like. I don't like the endless list of options upon a base version to get to a package I like.

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    Always room for criticism. EVERY manufacturer does things wrong sometimes.

    With CAFE 35mpg on the horizon, I would not be surprised to see BMW bring a lesser 3-series here. I bet they could sell some 318i.

    As for diesel, I won't say GM missed the boat. I don't think the US is fully ready yet. I haven't driven a diesel BMW, but I have directly compared the Golf TDi to a Golf GTi. And there is no comparison. The diesel is utterly breathless. It has a very strong low range, but the powerband is, at best, from 1500-3000 RPM. Below that, it pulls, but not very hard. Above that, you may wonder if it is suffering fuel starvation. And this is in comparison to the small turbo4 in the GTi, which itself has a pretty narrow powerband, say 2500-5000 RPM. But it's still much, much faster than the TDi.

    There is no questioning the numbers on the BMW's performance. The 335i will smoke the 335d, despite the fact that the D has 100 lbs-ft more of torque. Same thing with the X5 vs X5d. I refuse to accept the raving of all the folks on the torque-bandwagon these days, when two otherwise-equal 3-series have such disparaging performance.

    There is also, however, no questioning that the diesel has its place. Were I in the market for a work truck, a GMC 2500 Sierra with the big honkin turbodiesel would be my only consideration. But I do not want, nor will I accept, a lifeless diesel in a sport sedan or sports car.

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    It's all about gearing. And to prove it, BMW is now launching the M5 Diesel: 381hp Tripple-turbo 3.0L 6-cil. (740Nm torque). With AWD and auto-8 shifting.
    (Also available in X5 and X6)

    German article: http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-m...l-2323039.html

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    I still don't buy it. Then what you are saying is BMW did a piss-poor job of gearing the 335d. I don't buy that either.

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

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    Re: Base Cadillac ATS Gets 2.0 Liter Turbo Four Cylinder With 280 Horsepower [INCORRE

    The M-Sport Diesels are for Europe only.

    So no fun for us.

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